Game of Thrones TV Thread **HBO-Purists ONLY**

[wufwugy]

It's funny because he has argued against that very jimmy-rustling view of the possibility of spoilers on 2p2

What I said was not even spoiler to the thousandth place. The show is almost completely caught up to the books and if I were to guess it would be that most of the latest developments are going to be different

[wufwugy]

In case that's ambiguous, what I have said is spoiler to a big fat zero percent

[d0zer]

wasn't wuggy one of those butthurt spoiler babies, whinging about renton's subtle bookreading clues, and now he's become the very thing he hates?

I don't remember if he was actually one of them, but it seems in character so imma roll with it.

[wufwugy]

wasn't wuggy one of those butthurt spoiler babies, whinging about renton's subtle bookreading clues, and now he's become the very thing he hates?

I don't remember if he was actually one of them, but it seems in character so imma roll with it.

that was never me. i actually thought this thread was too hardline. in fact ive watched some stuff that spoiled me on the books as opposed to the show and haven't thought anything of it because they were book specific.

saying things like "the iron islanders don't suck in the book" is not a spoiler. but i understand that people might get upset at somebody saying that since there are a handful of dummies in our midst who don't know what actual spoilers are

[wufwugy]

k fine, i put them in spoiler tags. aint no spoilers tho.

[boost]

Here's the thing:

Everyone can slip, but I trust you guys (wuf, Renton, bikes, etc) enough that I feel comfortable discussing this stuff. You could slip, but the odds are against it, and I know you're not just going to no-filter-blurt-out a red wedding type of spoiler. But with that being said, this is a public forum, and you guys being ostensibly loose and fast with the book talk turns this thread into a potentially dangerous place for non-bookreaders.

Also, if you are going to post spoiler tags, maybe give a description of what is in them. Obviously I could just skip over them to be safe, but if they are only spoilered to protect the most sensitive, then it would be nice to have the option of checking out your insight without having it be a roll of the dice.

[Renton]

Just him describing in very nebulous terms why he prefers X character from the books to the show, or vice versa.

[wufwugy]

Almost done with Dance. When the fuck is Winds coming out? I thought that shits was out last year

[Renton]

I'd guess that its 40% gonna be out before the end of 2015, another 50% before end of 2016, and 10% 2017.

[wufwugy]

lol sounds like a pretty great possibility that the show will be ahead of the books by the start of s6

[Eric]

We need got back - especially now that boardwalk empire is done.

[wufwugy]

what spoiler was that? assuming it was already covered in the show

[rong]

what spoiler was that? assuming it was already covered in the show

If you want me to comment on whether or no it was a spoiler, well, I'm not touching that with a barge pole.

[wufwugy]

well what post was it. or page or whatever

[rong]

Between 300 and 400.

[wufwugy]

eh what dranger said has been covered in the show by now. perhaps some details behind it are expanded in the books, but it's not a spoiler anymore

by the time the next season is over, there will be no spoilers left. only deeper insight from the books. like im pretty sure ive figured out where one of the main characters will end up, but it's not something you could come to just by watching the show even though the show is laying the groundwork for it

[Renton]

I think I have the discipline that I'm not going to watch GOT this season.

[wufwugy]

youse gonna get spoilert yo. show people have the full expectation that book people shouldnt spoil but zero expectation that they themselves shouldnt spoil for the books

ados getting finished in 2025

[boost]

youse gonna get spoilert yo. show people have the full expectation that book people shouldnt spoil but zero expectation that they themselves shouldnt spoil for the books

I bet Oberyn read lots of tomes and books and scrolls and shit. I bet the Mountain didn't.

[Renton]

Still haven't been spoiled for mad men or deadwood and I've yet to see those shows. Just gotta unplug myself from the GoT corner of the internet.

The books are far far too good to take the cowards way out and watch the show.

[JKDS]

Did i miss something? Is this season moving past book 5 somehow? I thought there was a lot of content left

[wufwugy]

a handful of plots will likely be slightly ahead of the books, and most will be different

the trailer for the show is basically throwing the books out

[Renton]

Probably will be another season before they're really in Winds of Winter territory, but who knows. They could spoil entire plot points at worst and use their trademark sledgehammer storytelling technique to foreshadow spoilers at best.

I still haven't decided. I may cave and watch this season, I'd give it 50/50 chance at this point.

[wufwugy]

I think there is a decent chance that the books and show end up in entirely different places.

The ending of s5 is supposedly leaked, and if it's true, I have a hard time seeing how it flows with what the books are doing.

I think the show is setting up heroes and villains and an ultimate feel-good ending on some level. I am less convinced the books will do that.

I feel like there is no way GRRM could reiterate any major plot developments that the show already did. Yes, the books will last longer than the show, but in real time, let's say he's writing a character's arc who died in s7 of the show or whatever, I suspect he will not want to keep it the same

I'm giving it 51% chance that the show and books end up in entirely different ultimate outcomes for each plotline.

[Eric]

Can't wait for this to start up again...

[rong]

Emilia Clarke is the hottest woman on the planet. Obv a bit late to that conversation but holy cow is she hot.

[givememyleg]

Emilia Clarke is the hottest woman on the planet. Obv a bit late to that conversation but holy cow is she hot.

yes.

Oona Chaplin as well.

[rong]

Finally caught up with this thread. No way I'm reading a series of books with a cliff hanger and no end in site. That's the only reason though. I imagine the show will take its own direction and have some closure which the books might not for years to come.

And if the show starts to nose dive I'll just read cliffs on the books to remove the fixation.

[wufwugy]

i think the more of the show somebody watches before they read the books, the more they'll prefer the show. an example for why is that there is a character whose arc is not fully understood. in the show it appears that character is going to take on the role of several arcs in the books, yet in the books that character will likely do something else entirely. the arc that character takes on in the show is likely to be very cool (the stuff is great in the books as is), and people who havent read the books will say they prefer that particular arc for that character and when informed about what happened in the books they will likely say it worked better in the show even if that wouldn't be true if they had been introduced to the arcs in the books first.

that's about as abstract as i can make it. tbh i didnt like the books for the stories i had already known from the show. it was after getting into new stuff that the books became more enticing. far more than that though, is how epicly cool the fan theories are. i might argue those are better than the books by a longshot. i mean, the more i know about planetos, the more i shake my head at grrm claiming he's going to end the series with 7 books. he needs a good dozen books to get to the bottom of the world he created.

[wufwugy]

im still partial to ros. but yes dany has 10/10 face. she's linda cardellini level

[rong]

But when I read a book or series of books, the story is hugely important. With TV shows it is less so, as in other things like dialogue for example can be enough to keep me interested even if the story is a bit shite. But with a book it's nothing more than the telling of a story, and you have no idea if/when you will hear the end of it. And you invest so much more in a book that a TV show. To be left lost and melancholy in a few books time because the author bit off more than he can chew.

[boost]

the author bit off more than he can chew.

There's an awesome fat joke to be had here, but I'm too lazy to formulate it.

[rong]

After watching game of thrones the hobbit movie sucked ass.

[a500lbgorilla]

Right.

Because The Hobbit movies sucked ass.

You don't need to watch them to know the worst of the 4 Tolkien books stretched to 3 movies was gonna suck the wrong nut.

Just like you don't have to watch Pirates of the Caribbean 4 to know it's shit.

[rong]

Hobbit 2 was pretty good. 1 was dull. 3 would have been good just for the big battle if you like don't watch game Www.flopturnriver.com thrones.

[rong]

I have no idea what happened there.

[bjsaust]

I stopped reading the books after nbr 3 came out, I just didn't like them. Just finished watching season 4 on tv though, and now I'm really tempted to get back into the books.

[PokerChildKpo]

Just finished GOT,all i can say is "wow" , wait for the season 5 now

[boost]

Looks like at least the first three episodes are leaked.

[jackvance]

First 4 eps are leaked, lol. Gonna be a Red Wedding at HBO. The quality isnt too great though, looks like 480p.

[boost]

First 4 eps are leaked, lol. Gonna be a Red Wedding at HBO. The quality isnt too great though, looks like 480p.

I was really worried about that, but I watched e01 last night, and I was pretty satisfied. Obviously 720 is preferable, but man, slightly lower grade crack is being dangled in front of me-- who am I to be picky?

[jackvance]

I was really worried about that, but I watched e01 last night, and I was pretty satisfied. Obviously 720 is preferable, but man, slightly lower grade crack is being dangled in front of me-- who am I to be picky?

It's still perfectly watchable. Loving it so far, on to watch ep 4 now and then it's the great wait again.

[rong]

I actually can't find them. I don't think that's every happened before. It was just a quick search but still, what is the Internet coming to.

[rong]

Oh no, I'm just stupid, been searching for season 6.

[Eric]

Episode 1 last night was good. I'll just wait and see the next 3 weekly on hbo instead of looking for the leaked versions.

I used to think I'd want to read the books after everything is done on hbo but looking at some of the posts here there is some doubt about that now.

[wufwugy]

Episode 1 last night was good. I'll just wait and see the next 3 weekly on hbo instead of looking for the leaked versions.

I used to think I'd want to read the books after everything is done on hbo but looking at some of the posts here there is some doubt about that now.

what posts?

i watched the first three eps leaked so far. this is my first season watching after having read the books. pretty sure im saying im not much of a fan of the show anymore. it's easy to see real time now why dnd was a bad choice.

[Eric]

what posts?

i watched the first three eps leaked so far. this is my first season watching after having read the books. pretty sure im saying im not much of a fan of the show anymore. it's easy to see real time now why dnd was a bad choice.

One of your posts got me thinking that the books might not be that great after having watched it on hbo:

i think the more of the show somebody watches before they read the books, the more they'll prefer the show.

[wufwugy]

well at least ep4 was pretty great. maybe the first 3 were weak, maybe i just needed to get used to the new pace, maybe i was pissed at a handful of dumb decisions the writers made.

[boost]

Are we discussing up to e04? I feel like we should be pretty clear on that before someone gets spoiled. e02-04 in spoilers seems reasonable, but I would understand if people preferred no discussion of unaired episodes whatsoever.

[wufwugy]

just put it in tags and label it.

[rong]

Up to episode 4. Seems a little slow. It's like they touch on an interesting topic but just a tease, no real progress.

[jackvance]

To be fair every season starts slow-ish like that.

[rong]

I marathoned so maybe didn't notice.

[wufwugy]

here how it b: us bookies know of a handful of events (like six or seven) that are still spoilers for non-bookies, which will all air this season. other than that, most of the show is new to us. the show has cut a lot and changed a ton, with examples of several characters having entirely different personalities and/or arcs and/or being in different parts of the globe. The rumor for how one big event differs from the books in the coming eps gives me the impression that the show is going to an entirely different place than the books.

[MTCashman]

Ended up watching the 4 leaked episodes, now I need to wait a month for a new game of thrones episode :O

[wufwugy]

that's certainly true.

the most enjoyment ive gotten is from all the fan theories. i will probably recommend for anybody who doesn't plan on reading the books, to after this season is done, go read all the fan theories from bookies. it'll give a little more insight into the goings on of certain characters and arcs, but not really enough to spoil anything.

[a500lbgorilla]

the most enjoyment ive gotten is from all the fan theories.

Fan theories are something special. Genuinely delicious to read.

[a500lbgorilla]

If you read, read the books. If you listen to books on tape, listen to the books.

Don't go out of your way to consume them.

Same with Harry Potter. I saw the first movie, then ran through the books (Til Goblet of Fire). In retrospect, the books delivered, but the movies were good enough.

[JKDS]

I liked the HP movies up until the 2parter finale. I feel like they did a really poor job of portraying voldemort, and I dont even think its the actor's fault. It seems like the movies intentionally made him some kinda pervy, frail dude, and he was supposed to be super scary. Idk.

[Juked07]

I liked the HP movies up until the 2parter finale. I feel like they did a really poor job of portraying voldemort, and I dont even think its the actor's fault. It seems like the movies intentionally made him some kinda pervy, frail dude, and he was supposed to be super scary. Idk.

Speaking of HP, you guys should check out hpmor.com . Some of the best fiction I have ever read, and I do mean best fiction, not just best fan-fiction.

[Eric]

This season is good so far but we seem to be missing that Joffrey type character these first few episodes...

[Eric]

Sansa Stark seems to get the worst guys! Joffrey was pure evil and we've seen what the latest guy is capable of. At least Tyrion treated her relatively well in between.

[givememyleg]

Off to a pretty slow/weak start imo. I'm guessing the action will take a big leap in an episode or two.

[boost]

Off to a pretty slow/weak start imo. I'm guessing the action will take a big leap in an episode or two.

This is said every single season. It's a slow burn show. You're not watching E.R., Law & Order, or The X-Files.

[givememyleg]

Yeah, I guess since this is the first season I actually have to wait a week between episodes, it seems even slower for me. Was able to watch S1-S4 in a few weeks.

[boost]

Ah, right, that's certainly understandable. For reassurance, go back and read the episode summaries of the first four episodes of the previous seasons, and you'll see that there is nothing to worry about.

[Eric]

The start of episode 4 on Sunday was pretty crazy.

[wufwugy]

I support the divergence with regards to Barry the Bold. The Meereen plot does not translate well and the writers are right to change it. Granted, I think DnD have done an abysmal job adapting from the books. It's as if they didn't construct a plan either, and their choice of divergences come as surprises to them.

A prediction (because some of the storylines are beyond the books by now):

I think this is the last time Sansa and Littlefinger see each other. That scene in the crypts just felt very "Ned telling Jon he's gonna tell him about his mother the next time they meet".

[rong]

This show is so fucking dull when watched on a week by week basis. Great to marathon but dull dull dull when spread out.

[Eric]

This show is so fucking dull when watched on a week by week basis. Great to marathon but dull dull dull when spread out.

I wouldn't go so far as to say dull but I see where you're coming from.

Also, it is annoying when key characters aren't even seen in some of the episodes.

[wufwugy]

it doesnt help that this season is not that good.

[boost]

Maybe I'm a fan boy, I don't know, but I think you all are fucking crazy.

[rong]

I'm watching Mad men weekly now, the show delivers. I mean practically nothing happens but it works. I'm finding the complete opposite with got.

[jackvance]

It's still the best thing on TV. I'm thoroughly enjoying it. It's an epos, that's why it tells its story slowly. Near the end of the season is when shit always hits the fan.

[Eric]

It's still the best thing on TV. I'm thoroughly enjoying it. It's an epos, that's why it tells its story slowly. Near the end of the season is when shit always hits the fan.

Yeah, I look forward to it way more than anything else on the dvr. Maybe this is why some episodes seem bittersweet - too much anticipation.