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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    The Sea of Bones would work if Qarth was an oasis, but it's clearly not. It's like Spain, and GRRM assumes that this Spain wouldn't have a France, UK, or Morocco around it. In many ways, a better example would be that Qarth is like United Arab Emirates, but we know a lot more about Europe than the Middle East, so I try to make my analogies there, I guess
    That's exactly what Qarth is - the Arabian Penisula. Look at the map and consider the societies we've seen...it's exceptionally similar to Earth (WITH WINTERFELL ALL TORONTO-Y AND KING'S LANDING AS SHITTY WASHINGTON DC, the Dothraki like the Mongols) with the Atlantic shrunk so that we wouldn't be all like, whatever GRRM, there was no crossing of the Atlantic in Medieval Times, fucker.

    Season 1 went on and on about how broke King's Landing is. They can't afford a navy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyLaRue View Post
    That's exactly what Qarth is - the Arabian Penisula. Look at the map and consider the societies we've seen...it's exceptionally similar to Earth (WITH WINTERFELL ALL TORONTO-Y AND KING'S LANDING AS SHITTY WASHINGTON DC, the Dothraki like the Mongols) with the Atlantic shrunk so that we wouldn't be all like, whatever GRRM, there was no crossing of the Atlantic in Medieval Times, fucker.

    Season 1 went on and on about how broke King's Landing is. They can't afford a navy.
    My two main points are that Qarth is like UAE, but GRRM's version of Qarth is not. UAE doesn't have a Sea of Bones around it. All that coastline is in heavy use; so if Qarth rejects you, just go to a different part of the coast

    The other point is that the Narrow Sea is not like the Atlantic, but a channel. If it was the size of the Atlantic then the trip from Pentos to Vaes Dothrak is not scaled even close to correctly and would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long for virtually anything to survive and would be like traveling from Israel to China while taking the time it would take to walk the whole globe or something


    Also, KL being too broke to afford a navy would mean that within the year, a navy destroys them. Navies completely and utterly rule land areas where there's sea access. That's why, in history class, we learned so much about the naval dominance of Spain and Britain along with their vast empires.

    GRRM's world has greater access to sea than our current world, yet less mobility. It's weird. One of the most important aspects of how civilization develops/distributes is sea access
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by BennyLaRue View Post
    That's exactly what Qarth is - the Arabian Penisula. Look at the map and consider the societies we've seen...it's exceptionally similar to Earth (WITH WINTERFELL ALL TORONTO-Y AND KING'S LANDING AS SHITTY WASHINGTON DC, the Dothraki like the Mongols) with the Atlantic shrunk so that we wouldn't be all like, whatever GRRM, there was no crossing of the Atlantic in Medieval Times, fucker.

    Season 1 went on and on about how broke King's Landing is. They can't afford a navy.
    I'm sure you're half joking, but the world GRRM created is clearly a heavily Anglo-centric world view. Westeros is essentially mainland Britain but 10x the size. People from the north even tend to have Scottish accents.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I'm sure you're half joking, but the world GRRM created is clearly a heavily Anglo-centric world view. Westeros is essentially mainland Britain but 10x the size. People from the north even tend to have Scottish accents.
    Well, I did just want to suggest the Starks are Canadians, but Westeros is probably more of a amalgam of the Western world than strictly North America or England, what with a frozen North and a hot South that's reminiscent of Spain or the Southern US.

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