Game of Thrones TV Thread **HBO-Purists ONLY**

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No books that arnt officially released please

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i think we should add some book stuff, but it depends on what the show only people have to say.

there is still some book stuff that shouldn't be mentioned. but i think that there is value to the books for the show only people now. for example, show!euron is fucking garbage even though he's totally awesome in the books and potentially the main Act III antagonist.

Euron in the books is boss, but do you really think the show Euron is that bad? I think the casting is great. The Kings moot was a bit of a let down though. That was one of my favorite chapters in the whole series-- the Moot consisting of just Yara and Euron was weak, all the intrigue was lost, and they left out the dragon horn. I know this is tiptoeing into hyperbole, but without the horn, Euron winning the moot is close to being a plot hole.

No books that arnt officially released please

ldo.

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Euron in the books is boss, but do you really think the show Euron is that bad? I think the casting is great. The Kings moot was a bit of a let down though. That was one of my favorite chapters in the whole series-- the Moot consisting of just Yara and Euron was weak, all the intrigue was lost, and they left out the dragon horn. I know this is tiptoeing into hyperbole, but without the horn, Euron winning the moot is close to being a plot hole..

Show!Euron: "I don't mock the Drowned God; I am the Drowned God. From Oldtown to Qarth, when men see my sail, they pray."

Book!Euron: "Godless? Why, Aeron, I am the godliest man ever to raise sail! You serve one god, Damphair, but I have served ten thousand. From Ib to Asshai, when men see my sails, they pray."


This encapsulates why I don't like Show!Euron. Book!Euron is deeply mysterious. He's been to foreign lands, he knows foreign things, and he engages in foreign rituals. He's a religious fanatic who claims a divine destiny, and nobody can say otherwise since he appears to be truly inspired by his foreign experiences.

Show!Euron says silly things like he's a god. He makes cock jokes and says "let's go murder them." Show!Euron is an arrogant prick whose strength against his opposition is probably that he's just more ruthless than they are. Book!Euron is inspired. Conquest is his godly destiny, and for all we know, he's magical.

The show is trying to keep the religious fanaticism, mystery, and power of Euron, but I think turning him from a "godly" man to a "god" himself sullies his character. It makes him look too big for his britches instead of a divinely inspired enigma. Maybe it's just me, but I really loved the "godly" stuff the Iron Islanders cared so much about in the books. It gave them so much more depth and mystery. I was upset to see that "no godless man can sit the Seastone Chair" turned into "yadda yadda Salt Throne."

Show!Euron looks like just another meanface drabdress Iron Islander. I wanted to see this guy:



Instead we got this guy:





On a related note, I read an interesting analysis of each act's villains and heroes. The short is that Act 1 is Tywin vs Tyrion, Act 2 is Jon vs Ramsay, and Act 3 is Euron vs Dany. Also can be thought of as father vs son, bastard vs bastard, kraken vs dragon. Each act is a type of struggle: Act 1 is the destructive power of war and political power (culminating is the Red Wedding). Act 2 is the destructive power of humanity at its root (Ramsay embodies human evil, Jon is for the most part human good, and they are likely to face off, not unlike Tyrion and Tywin did). Act 3 is the destructive power of religion and magic. I like the kraken vs dragon metaphor. Both Dany and Euron will probably have "divine right" on their side, as well as the most amount of magic.