Game of Thrones TV Thread **HBO-Purists ONLY**

[baudib]

It doesn't make any sense though. Cersei was at least mentored by tywin for forever. Sansa spent her days knitting, and then getting tortured. She's no mastermind, and we can see that as she undermines Jon in front of all the northmen, and appears to trust the man who helped kill her father more than Arya. And sending briene away, because Arya needs protection...

I think she's gonna screw everything up, because there's no such thing as happily ever after. Hers is the story of make believe, and I think she's going to get continually punished for it. Much like theon will never be redeemed.

I mean every scene Sansa has been in for two seasons has indicated her growing intelligence/cunning/ruthlessness. She learned from her father and especially learned from his mistakes (her words); tells Jon he should listen to her in war planning meeting before BoB, and she is proven correct as they get slaughtered until KotV show up; she learned from Cersei and Littlefinger; her maester comments on how wise she is, etc.

[BananaStand]

I mean every scene Sansa has been in for two seasons has indicated her growing intelligence/cunning/ruthlessness. She learned from her father and especially learned from his mistakes (her words); tells Jon he should listen to her in war planning meeting before BoB, and she is proven correct as they get slaughtered until KotV show up; she learned from Cersei and Littlefinger; her maester comments on how wise she is, etc.

I'm not seeing it. If she had an IQ higher than her shoe size, Littlefinger would be dead.

She's still against Jon making an alliance with Umbers and Karstarks even though zombies are about to eat the whole world.

And her insight in the BoB seems like too little too late. It was her idea to start that battle in the first place. John could have declared himself "King in the North" from Castle Black. He didn't really need winterfell. Or, if anything, he didn't need it right then. He certainly had bigger fish to fry