Quote Originally Posted by Renton
For the first story, yeah that's a genuinely good thing to attribute to lax gun regulations. As for the second one, I can't say I agree. If that happened in america, the dude would have more than likely had a gun and shot her dead. In that way she was fortunate (seeing as she survived). The fact that he didn't have a gun allowed her to play a more generous parlay for her life than if he did.

Don't mistake me for someone that believes guns should be banned across the board. My principles are a little more complicated than that.

I honestly don't know the answer to the gun problem. I only know that it's a really big problem. I'm frustrated and scared at the fact that American society is so plagued with aggression and fear. I believe that if it weren't so much so, then the fact that americans have a huge hardon for guns wouldn't be so bad.

But I also think the way we glorify guns is a huge contribution to that problem. Doesn't anyone think its just a little bit fucked up that we all play with G.I. Joes, super soakers, etc, when we grow up? That we have killing drilled into our minds from a very early age? Do I think gun toys should be banned, no obviously not. Do I think kids shouldn't be allowed to make believe they are commandos, no. Its just an observation.

So I guess what I'm saying is that I don't necessarily agree or disagree with gun control. I just think our culture is in general fucked up. I think our laws are fucked up. I think its fucked up that uzi's are perfectly legal, but heroin isn't.

The gun issue is really complicated, but I think its really comes down to how much is your freedom worth, and what are your priorities? If your priorities are to be a society that is as free as possible, then guns should be allowed no matter what cost of human life. However, tons of laws in America are based on the preservation of human life at all costs. If protecting human life is the biggest concern than all guns should be banned, this isn't even arguable. I have no facts to back this statement up, but I'd bet a shit load of money that more people die from accidental gun deaths than are saved from crime by civilian carrying.


cliffsnotes: American society is totally fucked up and probably shouldn't be trusted with guns from an elitist standpoint, but if you believe personal liberty is the utmost concern then people should be allowed to have guns no matter how many 8 year olds commit acts of inadvertent eugenics. And if you believe that you should allow heroin, cocaine, partial birth abortion, etc.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. The problem has much more to do with cultural issues than just guns themselves. This is why it irritates me when the media makes it out to be that simple.