gg Tim Hardaway

[swiggidy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2766213

"You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known," Hardaway said. "I don't like gay people and I don't like to be around gay people. I am homophobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States."

...

Hardaway later apologized for the remarks during a telephone interview with Fox affiliate WSVN in Miami.

"Yes, I regret it. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said I hate gay people or anything like that," he said. "That was my mistake."

[euphoricism]

He's stupid, but whatever. He's perfectly allowed to have his beliefs and this is only news because he's rich and famous. Theres lots of homophobes in the world. Some of them are rich.

[DaNutsInYoEye]

LOL, the title of the book of the gay player that came out is "Man in the Middle".

[mcatdog]

Wasn't this guy trying to get into broadcasting? Well he can kiss that career good-bye. Dumbass.

[bode]

i dont know why he would even make a token apology after saying something like that. He obviously meant what he said. i dont think he can honesly say he didnt mean it when he said "i hate gay people".

[Phew72]

i dont know why he would even make a token apology after saying something like that. He obviously meant what he said. i dont think he can honesly say he didnt mean it when he said "i hate gay people".

He didn't take back about hating gay people, he just said it was a mistake to say it. There is a significant difference.

[a500lbgorilla]

Nothing wrong with hating gay people. Just like hating black people. It's unfounded and incredibly stupid but it's everyone's right to hate whomever they please.

[biondino]

It's everyone's right but it IS wrong in any kind of non-theistic humanist system of morals.

[Rondavu]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

[swiggidy]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

Does this apply to girls too?

I thought this was funny because of the way he apologized. I don't give a fuck what he actually thinks.

[a500lbgorilla]

Girls are sluts.

[Rondavu]

Girls are sluts.

QFT

[zook]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

OMFG

[Margin Of Error]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

Exactly. Homosexuality is obviously not the default neural programming for humans or we would cease to exist very quickly. There is something in your brain that must undergo change in order for such a condition to occur.

[zook]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

Exactly. Homosexuality is obviously not the default neural programming for humans or we would cease to exist very quickly. There is something in your brain that must undergo change in order for such a condition to occur.

I agree with your statement Margin, but to say that it's a brain malfunction and there should be medication for it is retarded. Was that a joke Rondavu?

[DaNutsInYoEye]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

Exactly. Homosexuality is obviously not the default neural programming for humans or we would cease to exist very quickly. There is something in your brain that must undergo change in order for such a condition to occur.

I agree with your statement Margin, but to say that it's a brain malfunction and there should be medication for it is retarded. Was that a joke Rondavu?

They're saying the same thing, but in different words. I don't see how you can agree with one statement but not the other...

[swiggidy]

Exactly. Homosexuality is obviously not the default neural programming for humans or we would cease to exist very quickly. There is something in your brain that must undergo change in order for such a condition to occur.

This is only true if our entire thought process is solely the result of chemical reactions. If this is true then the human mind is something that could be created or replicated since it's purely physical.

[zook]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

Exactly. Homosexuality is obviously not the default neural programming for humans or we would cease to exist very quickly. There is something in your brain that must undergo change in order for such a condition to occur.

I agree with your statement Margin, but to say that it's a brain malfunction and there should be medication for it is retarded. Was that a joke Rondavu?

They're saying the same thing, but in different words. I don't see how you can agree with one statement but not the other...

No, very different. Margin said it can't be the default neural programming, which is obv true. But that doesn't exclude it from being an evolutionary advantage to the species. I'll go into detail if you like, but one simplistic way that could be true is if being a heterozygote for homosexuality (assuming there's one non-dominant gene for it) is an advantage (like sickle-cell anemia and malaria resistance in Africans). The other thing Margin wrote was just that homosexuals' brains are different than heterosexuals'. I think this is obv too.

Rondavu on the other hand called it a "malfunction" which means it's bad. As I said, it could easily be an advantage to our species as a whole. He also said there should be medication for it, which is ludicrous in my opinion. If homosexuals were clamoring for a way to turn straight and there was a societal benefit to doing so, then maybe we could justify spending research dollars on it. But they're not, and there isn't. If Rondavu's just saying that b/c he doesn't like the idea of two guys banging each other and he thinks they should take medication to get "better" then that's selfish and offensive.

[zook]

This is only true if our entire thought process is solely the result of chemical reactions. If this is true then the human mind is something that could be created or replicated since it's purely physical.

OT, but I believe this. Happens to be my field of study though

[Phantaroth]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

Unless it is a choice. If it is a choice, are they still retarded?

If you arn't joking, which I don't think you are, and you choose to pursue your line of thought - you will be proven wrong. Bigotry is bigotry whether you use logic to strengthen your hate or not.

[Rondavu]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

OMFG

Oh what, you think sticking your penis in another mans asshole is fine and dandy? Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against people who have the conditional impulse of homosexuality. Let's just call it what is is though. It's sticking your penis in another mans asshole, and it's deviant in nature. It's equivalent to wanting to be spanked by your wife while wearing a pampers screaming "mama, mama!" It's like a husband having out of control urges to suck on his wife's toes while blasting Frank Sinatra. It isn't normal. I'm willing to accept that people do it, but I'm against those people trying to "validate" it as routine, run of the mill, customary, standard, regular.

[Phantaroth]

So basically you are just a judgemental dick and don't care that the sexual variations between people are harmless? You only care that there ARE differences in the first place... interesting.

I'll try and make a note of that.

[zook]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

OMFG

Oh what, you think sticking your penis in another mans asshole is fine and dandy? Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against people who have the conditional impulse of homosexuality. Let's just call it what is is though. It's sticking your penis in another mans asshole, and it's deviant in nature. It's equivalent to wanting to be spanked by your wife while wearing a pampers screaming "mama, mama!" It's like a husband having out of control urges to suck on his wife's toes while blasting Frank Sinatra. It isn't normal. I'm willing to accept that people do it, but I'm against those people trying to "validate" it as routine, run of the mill, customary, standard, regular.

Yeah, I'm fine with it. I don't want to watch it, or visualize it, but I have no problem with other people doing it.

And you seem to have backed down quite a bit. Now you're just saying it's not normal, standard, regular, etc. which I agree with. (It is customary b/c it's been happening since the beginning of recorded history, but that's nitpicking.) A small minority of humans are attracted to the same sex, so it certainly can't be defined as normal.

The main problems I had with what you wrote were using the word malfunction and saying that homosexuals should be medicated.

[Aces]

Oh what, you think sticking your penis in another mans asshole is fine and dandy? Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against people who have the conditional impulse of homosexuality. Let's just call it what is is though. It's sticking your penis in another mans asshole, and it's deviant in nature. It's equivalent to wanting to be spanked by your wife while wearing a pampers screaming "mama, mama!" It's like a husband having out of control urges to suck on his wife's toes while blasting Frank Sinatra. It isn't normal. I'm willing to accept that people do it, but I'm against those people trying to "validate" it as routine, run of the mill, customary, standard, regular.

Dude you obviously have quite a bit against it. Two consenting adults, who gives a rat's ass? Live and let live, what good does hating gays do? I'm also guessing you don't have the same opinion of lesbians since you didn't graphically describe what gay women do to each other as well but I guess that's another topic.

Chill with the gay-bashing already.

[ttanaka]

Two consenting adults, who gives a rat's ass? Live and let live, what good does hating gays do?

Yup, doesn't hurt me none, what's to hate?

[a500lbgorilla]

I have absolutely nothing against gays and think they should be able to marry.

But im not going to defend them and their lifestyle.

[thenonsequitur]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

Your statement came off as primarily an emotionally charged judgmental outburst that seemed pretty out-of-the-blue (over-reaction to cover up truths about yourself?). Even if you feel your comment holds philosophical or scientific validity (which I don't think it does), common courtesy should prevent you from presenting it like an asshole.

[thenonsequitur]

But im not going to defend them and their lifestyle.

I see no reason not to defend them and their lifestyle. The gay people I know are just like other people when not in the privacy of their own bedrooms. And when they are in the privacy of their bedroom it's really none of my business. They have a right to have whatever kind of (consensual) sex or sexual acts that they want to, and that's a principle worth defending. Just because I don't want to have the kind of sex they are having doesn't mean I shouldn't defend the principle of freedom that's it's based upon.

[Phantaroth]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

A handicap hinders you in some way. Please explain how you see homosexuality being a hinderence.

Please provide a link to the data that suggests homosexuality is linked to a specific brain condition.

It's equivalent to wanting to be spanked by your wife while wearing a pampers screaming "mama, mama!" It's like a husband having out of control urges to suck on his wife's toes while blasting Frank Sinatra. It isn't normal

By not being normal you refer to brain chemistry. Please provide data to prove this point.

I'm willing to accept that people do it, but I'm against those people trying to "validate" it as routine, run of the mill, customary, standard, regular.

I think it is widely acknowledged that there are more heterosexuals then homosexuals. But it certainly is a historical custom. As it relates to politics, homosexual rights should obviously be garunteed just as all other rights of free action are to be garunteed.

[Renton]

Gayness is not a choice. AND gayness isn't genetic. However, it IS innate.

Basically your sexual orientation is one of the many things that is decided during your early childhood personality development. There's definitely an element of randomness there though. Its definitely a mental thing, but it isn't something people choose to do.

BTW theres nothing wrong with finding homosexuality disgusting.

Obviously since im straight I think its pretty disgusting for a man to have sex with another man. THATS WHY IM STRAIGHT. OK? I don't have to find homosexuality appealing because IM NOT GAY.

However, there is something VERY wrong with finding homosexuals disgusting or hating them.

Also the argument of "all the gay people I know are like normal people when they aren't in their bedroom" holds very little water. There is a percentage of gay people, and it is very significant, who are queeny and very annoying and they are just adhering to the queen stereotype to be different from everyone else. ITS OK TO FIND THESE PEOPLE ANNOYING AND OBNOXIOUS.

I just think that people need to more clearly define their reasons for hatred and intolerance. The fact that he sucks cock is a poor reason. The fact that he's obnoxious is a perfectly good reason to dislike anyone.

[bigred]

I don't like the thought of fat people having sex but you're not going to see me start an anti-fatty campaign.

[zook]

Gayness is not a choice. AND gayness isn't genetic. However, it IS innate.

Basically your sexual orientation is one of the many things that is decided during your early childhood personality development. There's definitely an element of randomness there though. Its definitely a mental thing, but it isn't something people choose to do.

Just want to point out there should be an "I think" or "in my opinion" somewhere in here. I think that sexuality is strongly influenced (and in some cases determined) by genetic factors. But that's just my opinion.

[Renton]

Gayness is not a choice. AND gayness isn't genetic. However, it IS innate.

Basically your sexual orientation is one of the many things that is decided during your early childhood personality development. There's definitely an element of randomness there though. Its definitely a mental thing, but it isn't something people choose to do.

Just want to point out there should be an "I think" or "in my opinion" somewhere in here. I think that sexuality is strongly influenced (and in some cases determined) by genetic factors. But that's just my opinion.

this is a very opinionated thread, i figured it was implied

[thenonsequitur]

I don't like the thought of fat people having sex but you're not going to see me start an anti-fatty campaign.

very well-stated and QFT

[biondino]

Who knew Rondavu of all people would be FTR's resident bigot?

Simple truth = Rondavu is the retarded one. Imagine not having the humanity and empathy to tolerate the natural emotions of his fellow men. I would feel pity if it could penetrate the loathing his posts have generated.

In fact, I resent him all the more for making me feel the kind of hatred he does.

If he were here posting about how he hates blacks or jews or women he'd be banned in a heartbeat. So, mods. I'm appealing to you to do the right thing.

[Galapogos]

I don't like the thought of fat people having sex but you're not going to see me start an anti-fatty campaign.

How do fat people have sex anyway?

[bigred]

Who knew Rondavu of all people would be FTR's resident bigot?

Simple truth = Rondavu is the retarded one. Imagine not having the humanity and empathy to tolerate the natural emotions of his fellow men. I would feel pity if it could penetrate the loathing his posts have generated.

In fact, I resent him all the more for making me feel the kind of hatred he does.

If he were here posting about how he hates blacks or jews or women he'd be banned in a heartbeat. So, mods. I'm appealing to you to do the right thing.

Let's not get carried away now. While I completely disagree with what Rondavu has said, he's not using harmful slurs or total disrespect for everyone. Homosexuality is always a heated debate but let's try to maintain some composure here. Calling each other retarded isn't going to solve anything.

[Phantaroth]

Very carefully!

[bigred]

I don't like the thought of fat people having sex but you're not going to see me start an anti-fatty campaign.

How do fat people have sex anyway?

You could almost say in ways that are...unnatural? I mean, all those curves and chins, that's not right! Perhaps they should be outlawed too?

[biondino]

Bigred, the statements he made are unequivocally and unjustifiably bigoted. It doesn't matter what the target is. All he cares about is reacting with hatred against something he doesn't understand. Even in lands where free speech is held in the highest regard, this kind of rhetoric is unacceptable.

[Lukie]

This is only true if our entire thought process is solely the result of chemical reactions. If this is true then the human mind is something that could be created or replicated since it's purely physical.

Ignoring everything else in this thread because it really doesn't interest me, the above statement is true.

[bigred]

Bigred, the statements he made are unequivocally and unjustifiably bigoted. It doesn't matter what the target is. All he cares about is reacting with hatred against something he doesn't understand. Even in lands where free speech is held in the highest regard, this kind of rhetoric is unacceptable.

I'm just not a fan of countering extremes with extremes. It's up to the mods I suppose.

[thenonsequitur]

Also the argument of "all the gay people I know are like normal people when they aren't in their bedroom" holds very little water. There is a percentage of gay people, and it is very significant, who are queeny and very annoying and they are just adhering to the queen stereotype to be different from everyone else. ITS OK TO FIND THESE PEOPLE ANNOYING AND OBNOXIOUS.

First of all, I agree with just about everything you said. So I only quoted the part that I disagree on -- that the argument I made holds little water.

I think you are overestimating the percentage of obnoxious gay people. It's easy to get biased data here, because it's easier to classify a person being particularly queeny and obnoxious as gay than it is to classify someone normal doing something normal as gay. So when you notice that a person is gay, they are more likely to be obnoxious and queeny than a percentage over the actual population would indicate.

Secondly, I think that a certain portion of the population is just inherently obnoxious, regardless of sexual orientation. And it just so happens that obnoxious gay people have learned they can get attention by playing up the whole gay queen thing. But there are also a lot of non-obnoxious gay people that don't do this, because it's not inherent in them to be obnoxious.

[biondino]

Yeah, point taken, I always react too aggressively to things like this. I still think his comments deserve an instant and permanent banning, though. You simply can't disseminate bigotry like this.

Every other person who doesn't like the thought of putting his penis into another man has expressed themselves in a way which implies no intolerance whatsoever. I think the idea of bungee jumping is insane but I don't consider people who do it to be depraved, or subhuman, or BAD in any way. But he does, and it's not on.

[biondino]

thenonsequitur on the money

[swiggidy]

Wow @ this thread

I don't like the thought of fat people having sex but you're not going to see me start an anti-fatty campaign.

I think if the fatties stopped shoving food down their gullet and got off their fat ass every once in awhile we wouldn't have to worry about this.

This is only true if our entire thought process is solely the result of chemical reactions. If this is true then the human mind is something that could be created or replicated since it's purely physical.

Ignoring everything else in this thread because it really doesn't interest me, the above statement is true.

This is way more interesting than bashing gay bashers. Zook, what's your field of study and why do you think the mind is 100% chemical?

[Phantaroth]

I don't think he should be banned because I don't think he precieves what he says as biggoted. Also how can we make him see the light if he is banned?

[zook]

This is only true if our entire thought process is solely the result of chemical reactions. If this is true then the human mind is something that could be created or replicated since it's purely physical.

Ignoring everything else in this thread because it really doesn't interest me, the above statement is true.

This is way more interesting than bashing gay bashers. Zook, what's your field of study and why do you think the mind is 100% chemical?

Getting my PhD in neurobiology. Hopefully soon I've been studying the molecular basis of behavior in mice. Specifically the early stages of memory formation and more recently, behavioral responses to cocaine.

I think that the mind, consciousness, etc. can be explained entirely by the molecular and cellular workings of our brain b/c that the makes the most sense and there aren't any great arguments against it at this point. The more we learn about the brain and it's incredible complexity, the more convinced I become. As for replicating the human mind, it's a really long way off obv, but we can already predict and influence a simple type of decision-making in monkeys using the electrical activity of a small number of neurons. It's only going to get cooler from here on out.

[thenonsequitur]

zook, have you ever read "Conversations on Consciousness: Interviews with Twenty Minds"? It's an easy read that is also thought-provoking. I highly recommend it.

The book is what the title says. It's interviews with twenty well-known people from many different loosely related academic fields ranging from philosophy to neurobiology to quantum physics. They all talk about their ideas about consciousness, thoughts, free will, the brain, and the mind. Nothing very technical, it's a layman's book, but you get to concisely see a lot of different viewpoints (most of which are based a lot more on hard science than on philosophy). You may already be familiar with a lot of the stuff in this book, but you'd probably enjoy it anyway.

[zook]

That looks/sounds very cool. I added it my Amazon wish list. Thanks.

[Galapogos]

I don't like the thought of fat people having sex but you're not going to see me start an anti-fatty campaign.

How do fat people have sex anyway?

You could almost say in ways that are...unnatural? I mean, all those curves and chins, that's not right! Perhaps they should be outlawed too?

Here's how I always figured they do it. The girl lays down on the bed. And the guy jerks off into his hand and then he throws it at her.

[swiggidy]

I don't like the thought of fat people having sex but you're not going to see me start an anti-fatty campaign.

How do fat people have sex anyway?

You could almost say in ways that are...unnatural? I mean, all those curves and chins, that's not right! Perhaps they should be outlawed too?

Here's how I always figured they do it. The girl lays down on the bed. And the guy jerks off into his hand and then he throws it at her.

The problem is he has <25% of getting her pregnant cuz he doesn't know which fold is hiding the kooche.

[Galapogos]

I don't like the thought of fat people having sex but you're not going to see me start an anti-fatty campaign.

How do fat people have sex anyway?

You could almost say in ways that are...unnatural? I mean, all those curves and chins, that's not right! Perhaps they should be outlawed too?

Here's how I always figured they do it. The girl lays down on the bed. And the guy jerks off into his hand and then he throws it at her.

The problem is he has <25% of getting her pregnant cuz he doesn't know which fold is hiding the kooche.

He just has to pretend it's pudding. Fat people are expert with that stuff. No way he'll miss then.

[givememyleg]

woah this thread is a lot different today then it was yesterday.

i thought we were teasing tim hardaway because he won't have a career anymore?

[Galapogos]

woah this thread is a lot different today then it was yesterday.

i thought we were teasing tim hardaway because he won't have a career anymore?

Well, we were "teasing" Time Hardaway but then the playground monitor told us to stop or we would get detention.

[Miffed22001]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

OMFG

Oh what, you think sticking your penis in another mans asshole is fine and dandy? Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against people who have the conditional impulse of homosexuality. Let's just call it what is is though. It's sticking your penis in another mans asshole, and it's deviant in nature. It's equivalent to wanting to be spanked by your wife while wearing a pampers screaming "mama, mama!" It's like a husband having out of control urges to suck on his wife's toes while blasting Frank Sinatra. It isn't normal. I'm willing to accept that people do it, but I'm against those people trying to "validate" it as routine, run of the mill, customary, standard, regular.

I agree and disagree

1. I dont give a shit if someone is gay or not, that is there choice. I wont make decisions based on the fact that they are gay.

2. I however do not believe we are correct to 'legitimise' deviant behaviour. At what point does it become wrong to become a 'misinterpretation of the correct'?

If human beings were meant to be homosexual there would be a manner in which to replicate. the fact is there is not, and go back to the biology book and remember one of the first laws of being alive 'the ability to propogate'
The only reason we now allow them children is because they can do it via a test tube.
The moral issue is whether we should allow the test tube or the homosexual. If we allow the test tube to create babies then how can you deny it to any person regardless of sexual persuasion?

hence the whole thing is fucked up, homosexuality sure, im not against it, but i dont legitimise it either. It is not human nature to be homosexual, look in a book and the world around to see the evidence...

[swiggidy]

For being a fairly intelligent group most of you are fucked up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_...exual_behavior
diss the source, I don't care. Homoism is observed in nature by species that have to reproduce to survive. Our gays aren't alive because we're coddling them and allowing their survival.

If you want to get rid of a portion of society what about kids with a severe handicap? I don't remember which I'm thinking of, MS or CP or something. But as soon as they're born they have no chance. They can't move or interact with anything around them and have no hope of ever doing so. Yet there is a ward at the hospital, using electricity and food, where people work, using manpower, pushing these kids around the room in wheel chairs so they can watch TV and changing their diapers. Is this an effective use of resources? I say nay.

And if you want to diss gays, compare living in a gay neighbor hood to living near the ghetto. In one your TV gets stolen or your car gets broken into. In the other you get invited to parties. So WTF is the problem.

Morals of this thread:
1) fuck Tim Hardaway cuz he's a dumbass
2) fuck fat people cuz they're fat (not literally you sick fuck)
3) fuck a dead duck (yes literally), because other ducks do so it must be natural

[swiggidy]

woah this thread is a lot different today then it was yesterday.

i thought we were teasing tim hardaway because he won't have a career anymore?

Well, we were "teasing" Time Hardaway but then the playground monitor told us to stop or we would get detention.

I'm glad someone is constructively contributing to this thread. It's like a Quintin Tarintino movie where there are 4-5 different things going on that seem un-related. Except we don't have a sweet author to tie them all together for a grand finale.

Or do we...?

[Renton]

If you want to get rid of a portion of society what about kids with a severe handicap? I don't remember which I'm thinking of, MS or CP or something. But as soon as they're born they have no chance. They can't move or interact with anything around them and have no hope of ever doing so. Yet there is a ward at the hospital, using electricity and food, where people work, using manpower, pushing these kids around the room in wheel chairs so they can watch TV and changing their diapers. Is this an effective use of resources? I say nay.

YOU ELITIST PRICK

[swiggidy]

If you want to get rid of a portion of society what about kids with a severe handicap? I don't remember which I'm thinking of, MS or CP or something. But as soon as they're born they have no chance. They can't move or interact with anything around them and have no hope of ever doing so. Yet there is a ward at the hospital, using electricity and food, where people work, using manpower, pushing these kids around the room in wheel chairs so they can watch TV and changing their diapers. Is this an effective use of resources? I say nay.

YOU ELITIST PRICK

I loled, is that bad?

[ProZachNation]

Miffed please realize by your reasoning, jerking off is WRONG, having sex with protection or w/o trying to impregnate your partner is WRONG. Jerking off serves no purpose but you do it Im sure.

Also technology and current situations make it possible for two men or women to raise a child. Would you rather have a child raised in a home by two gay parents who love their child, or be put through foster homes and what not.


So please dont jerk off or use protection, otherwise you are just being a hypocrit. Thanks

[boost]

I think one guy banging another is disgusting. To me the urge to have intercourse with the same sex is equivalent to being retarded. There's something wrong in your brain to want to do that. It's a "condition", just like any other. It's like having turrets, being autistic, or having any mental handicap. It's a brain malfunction. There should be medication for it.

OMFG

Oh what, you think sticking your penis in another mans asshole is fine and dandy? Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against people who have the conditional impulse of homosexuality. Let's just call it what is is though. It's sticking your penis in another mans asshole, and it's deviant in nature. It's equivalent to wanting to be spanked by your wife while wearing a pampers screaming "mama, mama!" It's like a husband having out of control urges to suck on his wife's toes while blasting Frank Sinatra. It isn't normal. I'm willing to accept that people do it, but I'm against those people trying to "validate" it as routine, run of the mill, customary, standard, regular.

I agree and disagree

1. I dont give a shit if someone is gay or not, that is there choice. I wont make decisions based on the fact that they are gay.

2. I however do not believe we are correct to 'legitimise' deviant behaviour. At what point does it become wrong to become a 'misinterpretation of the correct'?

If human beings were meant to be homosexual there would be a manner in which to replicate. the fact is there is not, and go back to the biology book and remember one of the first laws of being alive 'the ability to propogate'
The only reason we now allow them children is because they can do it via a test tube.
The moral issue is whether we should allow the test tube or the homosexual. If we allow the test tube to create babies then how can you deny it to any person regardless of sexual persuasion?

hence the whole thing is fucked up, homosexuality sure, im not against it, but i dont legitimise it either. It is not human nature to be homosexual, look in a book and the world around to see the evidence...

Theres a huge hole in your logic. Homosexuals infact do exist.

Also as a whole our goals is to procreate, but thats does not mean that every one of us has to do so. Being a productive member of society is working to maintain and advance our species. Pretty much, youre taking a general concept and applying it on an individual basis. This will inherantly cause flawed hypothesis.

[Harry]

This thread is turning me on!

[Phantaroth]

I however do not believe we are correct to 'legitimise' deviant behaviour

All behavior is legitimate unless you can feasibly prove to me that it harms other people.

[Reidak]

I however do not believe we are correct to 'legitimise' deviant behaviour

All behavior is legitimate unless you can feasibly prove to me that it harms other people.

What if you your asshole gets pounded to hamburger meat?
thinkkk bout it!

[Rabid Dog]

Why can't you just hate the act of homosexuality without hating the homosexual? I don't think Hardaway would have made such a stur if he had said something like, "I have nothing against the gay person per say, just the physical act of homosexuality".

[Harry]

How do you have something 'against' an act that is consensual and doesn't involve you?

[Rabid Dog]

How do you have something 'against' an act that is consensual and doesn't involve you?

Your not understanding the statement. Just because you hate the act of homosexuality, doesn't mean you have to hate the homosexual. Just because the act doesn't involve you, doesn't mean you have to agree with the act. In fact you can hate or disagree with the act, but agree they have the right to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own home, between consenting adults.

[thenonsequitur]

I don't think Hardaway would have made such a stur if he had said something like, "I have nothing against the gay person per say, just the physical act of homosexuality".

I think if Hardaway said that he would cause quote a stir because people would be wondering where he learned so many big words and how to construct a full sentence.

[Rabid Dog]

I don't think Hardaway would have made such a stur if he had said something like, "I have nothing against the gay person per say, just the physical act of homosexuality".

I think if Hardaway said that he would cause quote a stir because people would be wondering where he learned so many big words and how to construct a full sentence.

LOL

[swiggidy]

LUKIE!?!, will you rate my thread?

[zook]

What this thread is missing:

[Aces]

I think if Hardaway said that he would cause quote a stir because people would be wondering where he learned so many big words and how to construct a full sentence.

POTT(Post of the Thread)

[mrhappy333]

Youtube link, no video but you can hear the whole conversation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFP9rCnXR54

[chardrian]

I'm just glad you're not bashing she-males.