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 Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill
let's start from here, because I'm willing to be swayed from my opinion: in theory, if every able bodied citizen had a gun, the government could not implement highly unpopular practices like slavery or 100% taxation because all demographics of society would have considerable power to prevent it. Even if it came to bloodshed the 'cost' to the majority to oppress the minority would be so great as to discourage rational minds from attempting it. so in a sense the second amendment does guarantee protection against tyranny. guns are so powerful that they have the potential to be an equalizer, so long as the government isn't the only one with fully automatic assault rifles.
the main caveats to this theory being 1. not everyone owns a gun or will, and so for example asian-americans or middle class Oregonian's lol are grossly underrprotected demographics and 2. "rational minds" never describes collective movements
not to say I don't think the citizen militia idea is appealing, but I think it would be nearly as complicated and vulnerable to corruption as the governments military. I just read a book about Pat Tillman, a soldier who died in Afghanistan. I am officially disillusioned with the military
The Second Amendment is about legalizing formation and utility of a citizen controlled army. Ownership of firearms is a means to that end. Back when the amendment was drafted, rifle ownership and the legality of congregation were really the only requisites for that. But it's different now. Not only will all the firearms in the world do nothing to stop modern militaries, but tyranny and freedom itself takes on a much different model.
I'm not even sure a citizen militia is even relevant today. Keep in mind that this stuff was drafted looooong before things like Federal Reserve. I don't have an answer because I just don't know what a citizen militia would look like in today's society. I do, however, think that the Second was a bad amendment to begin with. What exactly has it done for us? Get a shitload of people killed because rich people wanted to keep their slaves? And it's done absolutely nothing to deter things like martial law
I don't even think the Second should have been made, and they should have spent more time on other rights like labor and housing. Keep in mind that the framers drafted a constitution wherein slavery was still legal. This wasn't some from down on high shit. They got a bunch wrong. And even what they did get right, some of those rights have been taken from us, yet where are all the gun nuts taking them back?
The Civil War was the Second in action. Remember that
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