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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    Yes, humans are stupid, but what does that say about us since we're human....
    Nothing is smart. You said it yourself, reality is a fucked thing. It just exists and we live. I figure we just have to respect existence for the challenges it brings to us. Everything from challenging your heart to beat, to challenging man-kind and society to exist effectively.

    I don't really like thinking about these things anymore because that's the only thing I've really taken away from all this heavy thinking. You just gotta work to beat what life throws your way. And Jesus coulda taught me that years ago and saved me all the trouble!
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    but if you had taken the short cut and just learned it from the j-man it all would inherently be a lie. Even though its the same conclusion, the method of reaching it is based in fallacies and nonsense so it holds no water. Ignorance is not bliss, at best it allows people to be content, but not blissful. And I think when you set out to pull back the curtain it can be a tough road and an ego smashing shock when you finally draw it back, but in the end I think its the only way you can find happiness.


    edit: You can take a look at voters and see the same thing. I voted for obama, and I am sickened by the dogmatic republican voters that just repeat party lines. However I am saddened by the democrats that do the same thing. Sure I think that theyve found themselves brainwashed by the right (or should I say less shitty) side, but both groups are equally to blame for this crappy two party system we have.
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    My faith in humanity was never so low until I began studying political issues


    On a different point, saw a study the other day that showed that the only post high school professional careers that didn't see an increase in religiousness of subjects (and actually saw a dramatic decrease) were the humanities and social sciences. Everything else: biology, physics, education, etc, saw an increase in religious importance and attendance among subjects after high school.

    Strongly suggests that people who actually deal with reality instead of some isolated and peaceful sector of it dont dare believe in a god that would allow so much tragedy befall his own children
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    religiousness of subjects
    You kinda lost me here.. are you saying that in college these curriculum (synonym: subjects) are taught with a religious spin? Or more religious people(being the subjects) are gravitating to these fields?


    On a side note, it always baffles me when I see interviews or read stuff by leading scientist, in fields which relate to subjects like string theory and m-theory, proclaim to be christian or jewish or muslim or whatever. I just dont see how you can dedicate your lifes work to such studies and not at some point find atheism to be most in line with your world (universal?) view.
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    Subject i.e. test subjects i.e. the people the scientists were testing were all individual subjects. Sorry for the confusion

    And yeah, that baffles me as well. People just really really wanna feel special. However, I think one reason for this may be that those people didn't have to 'learn the hard way'. IOW, critical thinking and success in academia always came easy to them, so they never really had to question things and figure them out for themselves. I know that I'm pretty much the opposite of this; every ounce of critical thinking I may possess came from a long and hard journey of discovery.

    One example can be found in the youtube channel, donexodus2. If you're at all interested in the evolution vs creation 'debate', his channel is one of the best. There are a ton of good channels though because youtube, interestingly, is a hub for evolution vs creation issues.

    Anyways, this guy is REALLY smart, thoughtful, and educated on evolution/biology, but he's also a christian, and he discusses this a bit on his channel. He's essentially regressed his religion as far as he can into it's own kind of god of the gaps fallacy. Even though he understands logic quite well, he just doesn't extend it to his most cherished of faiths.

    He's a good kind of christian though. The kind who thinks that it's purely a personal thing, and should not be imposed upon any other aspect of anybody's life. But really, his logic, even though it's as 'sound' as it could get, still doesn't stand up. He doesn't realize that he's essentially fabricating his own deity, based in his own brain, and providing no testable reasoning for it. Actually, he DOES realize that because he sees other people do it with similar issues, but doesn't put it all together and contrast it with this one belief

    I'm truly baffled by it, really. The guy's super cool and super smart, but jesus, even the best of us cant handle the truth I guess
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    Robot

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbFFs4DHWys

    Kinda freaky. More advanced so far than I thought though, and this is three years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    Robot

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbFFs4DHWys

    Kinda freaky. More advanced so far than I thought though, and this is three years ago
    lol at 3rd reply. Really though I dont see what makes you think this is so advanced. This is obviously on a pedestal and has no movement in the torso and we cant see but could possibly have a ton of space below the waist line as well. The 'bot seems to simply be performing a recorded sequence which is not great feat. All the room in the torso and the possible room below can easily be used to store whatever to control the pulley system that actuates the arms hands and face. In a true robot it would need the capability to not just perform a recorded routine but also it would need to be able to react in real time and interact with its environment. On top of that the torso would need to be able to articulate just like the arms and face and also it would need legs which means it needs some sort of gyroscopic mechanism to balance. ect ect.. pretty much my point is that by having this simply be a torso on a pedestal they are afforded way more space and are simply making a pretty cool puppet, but not anything close to the sexbot you(ok.. we..) so desperately want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobbatino
    I think this existential realization of our relative insignificance is a big step in intellectual maturity that a lot of humans never make. When I first started thinking and realizing it I was seriously depressed for months. The only reason it affected me that badly is because society teaches us to think of ourselves as a "beautiful and unique snowflake" with a "purpose in life" and what not.

    But in the words of good Tyler Durden, "Listen up, maggots. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else."

    Then the thought matured into the realization that this specific piece of decaying matter has the power to override the senses that have been exploited by religion and society and that what we do doesn't matter in the scope of things larger than our immediate present/future and I realized that with our species having found out how to please the senses we've evolved, we might as well.

    Moral of the story, enjoy life, it's short. Have fun, get laid, exploit your senses, make yourself (and those around you) happy. Because at the end of the day nothing else really matters; money, a house, a car, the pretty wife and white picket fence is all an illusion - a template set up for you by advertisment, it may work, but then again, it may not.

    Ok I got way off subject there, my apologies, I tend to ramble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    Robot

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbFFs4DHWys

    Kinda freaky. More advanced so far than I thought though, and this is three years ago
    lol at 3rd reply. Really though I dont see what makes you think this is so advanced. This is obviously on a pedestal and has no movement in the torso and we cant see but could possibly have a ton of space below the waist line as well. The 'bot seems to simply be performing a recorded sequence which is not great feat. All the room in the torso and the possible room below can easily be used to store whatever to control the pulley system that actuates the arms hands and face. In a true robot it would need the capability to not just perform a recorded routine but also it would need to be able to react in real time and interact with its environment. On top of that the torso would need to be able to articulate just like the arms and face and also it would need legs which means it needs some sort of gyroscopic mechanism to balance. ect ect.. pretty much my point is that by having this simply be a torso on a pedestal they are afforded way more space and are simply making a pretty cool puppet, but not anything close to the sexbot you(ok.. we..) so desperately want.
    Yeah, that's true

    My perspective was that robotics were worse than this though. If you're drunk you could look at a video of this robot and think it was a person for a little bit, and that is simply more advanced than I thought. Another five decades will be light years beyond this though

    Also, one thing about robotics is that it's in its 'isolation' stage. IOW, robots are not made with all the tech of all robots; they're made to focus on a couple things only. They could have given this robot a lower body, but no need since that's not what they're working on. Other labs are working on lower body mechanics. They only wanted this robot to look as human as possible. They have a long way to go, but doing good so far
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    ya, I see what you mean. Like honda has asimo which can walk, but the goal of asimo was not to make it look like a human, however down the line all these things can be put together..


    but then again... who needs a sex robot that can walk?



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    Quote Originally Posted by boost
    but then again... who needs a sex robot that can walk?
    Some like the chase *swings his lasso*
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    so we were hanging out last night when some show on Rogue Killer Waves was on. Apparently, if you just take a huge mass of calm ocean, some random solution to the Schrodinger equation (the newtons law of quatum mechanics) dictates that enormous waves just fucking form.

    It made me wanna learn more about the weather. good times.
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    Default uni verse

    Hmm,perhaps we should ask the one who created dna,quantum physics,and everything else,unless you believe all this accidentally happened.Let the merry-go-round begin.
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    we have a jesus troll on the forum? Sweet!
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    Default Re: uni verse

    Quote Originally Posted by nightmoves44
    Hmm,perhaps we should ask the one who created dna,quantum physics,and everything else,unless you believe all this accidentally happened.Let the merry-go-round begin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmoves44
    Hmm,perhaps we should ask the one who created dna,quantum physics,and everything else,unless you believe all this accidentally happened.Let the merry-go-round begin.
    No one likes a know-it-all.
    ha, well played.
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    As much as I wish we had a jesus troll on the forum, I really don't

    I have a love/hate relationship with debate. I love to debate to learn, I have zero problem with being wrong, and I admit to it 100% of the time it happens. Making mistakes, after all, is the best way to learn. But good fucking god do I hate arguing with people who don't know how to argue. Fucking people who don't use logical principles correctly, don't use facts correctly, and basically just say what they say and say it's right. I cannot fucking stand this because there seems to be no way to actually combat it.

    I've learned to just stop arguing or give up on arguments with people, but man is it tough. I mean, I LOVE knowledge and debate, but fuck god almighty if dumb shits don't ruin those things.
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    I know that I am not the greatest debater, Im sure I stumble into logical fallacies often without even knowing it, but I at least try to make sense. What sucks is that people get offended by your use of logic. Its like owning someone in poker and they get convinced that you are somehow cheating. And they tend to ignore your introduction of empirical facts. Its like because they simply use their opinion as a basis of their argument they assume thats what everyone is doing. Therefore when you actually use facts and logic they think its reasonable to just dismiss them at will. So this is where they get offended: you defend your argument and back it up because it actually has truth to it and you easily pick theirs apart because it doesnt, so they feel like you want them to respect your point of view while you are dismissive of theirs. But what they dont realize is that theres a very good reason for that...
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    Exactly

    And when it comes to logical fallacies and debate, it's a continual process. I debate people quite a bit, and whenever I do, I spend more time researching their assertions more than I do responding to their assertions. So if somebody tells me I'm invoking the Loki's Wager fallacy, I wiki and google it and make sure that I thoroughly understand it before I respond.

    I think this a big reason why people are unwilling to change their position on issues: they get themselves into situations in life that they ultimately regret, and in questioning themselves in any arena they open themselves up for acknowledgment of said regret.
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    There is no debate. When it comes to searching for truth, we all check with nature for answers. "Are people evil? Well... what do we know about people? What do we know about evil?"

    Bible thumpers do just that. When they go searching for truth, they all check with scripture for answers. "Are people evil? John 3:16 says..."

    "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
    -Max Planck

    So the only debate really worth having is how to keep religion away from the kids if we really wanna kill off the notion completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
    Bible thumpers do just that. When they go searching for truth, they all check with scripture for answers. "Are people evil? John 3:16 says..."
    And when cherry picking those answers, they conveniently ignore the portions of the book that are contradictory to the point they are trying to support. My brother-in-law likes to hold up the "gays are evil" passages to explain why he won't let the kid of a lesbian couple come to his house but during this conversation, I guess he forgets the "love everybody" stuff.

    The answer is to just not bother venturing into conversation with people only equipped with tunnel vision. I rarely talk to my brother-in-law at all, preferring for our sole interactions to be grunts at Christmas, me calling him a fascist neo-Nazi under my breath or when I'm imagining stabbing him in the eye.
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    Excellent Planck quote

    And WRT fundies cherry picking, selection bias, cognitive dissonance, etc, check out NonStampCollector on youtube. This guy does absolutely brilliant satires of religion, mainly Christianity, and they're so good at pointing out all the cherry picking, bias, and dissonance in the scriptures that Christians ignore.

    And quite funny

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfjkl-3SNE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt66kbYmXXk

    These two are my favorite, but pretty much all his videos are great. Very dry humor and insightful. I honestly do not believe that a fundie Christian could watch these videos and respond without just giving up because the director simply just uses the Bible to contradict the Bible
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    I was just thinking about the holodeck/virtual reality topic when a commercial came on for this post-apocalyptic reality show on discovery called "the colony" " So I got to thinking, when the tech is young it will be too expensive for consumer use most likely.. but an awesome way to make a profit out of it would be to have (virtual) reality shows and actually have them be cool. Unlike current reality shows where everything is contrived, you could have a left 4 dead show, a fallout show, or whatever. It would also feel more "real" because you wouldnt have actual cameras interfering with the people on the show, and any camera angle could be used, and since its virtual reality everything could be recorded in code (like a starcraft replay) then camera angles could be setup and then play back the code making for movie quality shots.
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    I watched an episode of the colony and are going to watch the others later today.
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    quantum computers and parallel universes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4BH231d2Y
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    quantum computers and parallel universes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4BH231d2Y
    "If parallell universes exists..."

    This story I am about to tell, is probably just my mind playing tricks on me, but nevertheless it was the scariest experience I ever had. It took place about a month ago.

    I had been meditiating for weeks and had truly lost touch with reality. I remember the day before the incidence, when I was sitting in my couch, slowly coming back from deep meditation, not knowing who I was or where I was. First I thought I was in year 2020 and that I was in my forties, but after some more thought I guessed it was probably more like 2006.

    Then after some more meditation, I fell asleep. In the middle of the night (or whatever time it was) I heard a whispering voice calling my name. First it was soft and friendly, so I stood up and stood in the middle of my apartment.

    The voice calling my name, changed into a low pitched buzzing/humming noise. I stood confused and thought maybe it was some electric failure in some kitchen appliances or something else explainable.

    Then the sound escalated in intensity and range of pitch. The sound grew stronger and stronger until I could not hear the voice of myself screaming my lungs out.

    Shortly after, reality started to collapse. My television, bookshelf, stereo, computer, pictures, floor, walls- started disappearing, one by one.

    When all physical objects was gone from my sight, all that was left was a field of wave like psychedelic colours- mostly red, pink, yellow, and blue- but probably many others as well. I could no longer see my feet, as all there was left was these waves.

    Now I noticed in the corner of my living room, that these waves were spinning and waving into a whirlpool. The noises, which at this time was so terrifying I never thought possible, in a way told me this was a gate to a differerent reality. All I had to do was step into the whirlpool, or so I thought.

    Thinking a second or two, I was afraid I was never returning to reality if I entered- so I resisted and wished with all my force to get reality as I knew back into sight.

    The next thing that happened, was that reality started popping back- one item at a time, until my apartment was just like it used to be.

    The intensive noises started calming down, but changed into a laughter. Not an evil laughter, more like a laughter that conveyed amusement over my failure to dare to venture to the other side.

    As the laughter continued, and I went back to bed- I heard the voice telling me; "Go back to bed, you", and I felt there was an implied meaning of cowardice in the commandment.

    Still terrified, I lied in bed listening to the laughter that ensued until it was all gone.

    I have not meditated since, althoough as I stated above- this was probably just my mind playing tricks on me.

    Anyone else had any similar experiences?
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    Never had something like that but I'm curious, what kind of meditation are you talking about? Where there any psychedelic drugs involved?

    Sounds intense.
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    I had been smoking quite a lot of marijuana. This incident made me stop using the drug altogether, but in my years of using it I never experienced anything like this.

    When I meditated, I would try to block all thoughts- and just experience being. Maybe it is similar to transcendental meditation. There was no effort involved, just pure relaxation with no concerns or thoughts whatsoever.

    Whenever my mind drifted away into thoughts about mundane life I would accept those thoughts for what they were worth, but not follow up on them.

    The nice thing about meditation, was that when I had thoughts or ideas- they were crystal clear and very intense. It was like I received them, instead of creating them. It was like my whole brain was working together on a single thought- not scattered and dispersed like they usually are.
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    Complete thread derail but whatever.

    I had an interesting experience once, the way you described your thoughts made me remember it. I ate a lot of shrooms and smoked some as well, so when it hit, it really hit.

    I was lying down in a university campus in northern france (not that I went to the university, it's just cops aren't allowed in university campus). As the trip started I had the usual changes in perception, but then it took a weird twist. When I closed my eyes I felt as if I was in a vortex. Imagine like a winamp visualization when you're listening to chill out or some such thing. Except all the pieces and parts of this vortex weren't just pretty colors or light or energy, they were ideas and concepts. They were rushing from every "direction", not that there was any direction at all, and I could focus on any one idea and perceive it, understand and consider it completely and utterly, prefectly clearly, but all in the matter of a few moments. Then that one idea, among millions, was gone. And there was another, and another and another.

    It was an awesome trip, probably the most introspective trip I've ever had.
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    I do not think it is a thread derail, because our perception of reality is what this thread is about. We are "itty bitty" in comparison with the grand scale of the universe.

    Did you remember these ideas after the trip was gone? Did they still make sense?

    Although psychedelic drugs causes us to "trip", it is a powerful reminder that reality is created in the chemical soup of our brain. If external chemicals, like shrooms- make us perceive reality differently, then how can we know the already existing chemicals is giving us the "right" perception of reality?
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    Yeah I do remember the ideas I "chose" to perceive, though it was more of a random pick as far as I can remember. Somehow the ideas, notions and concepts felt much more important at the time, though important isn't the right word. Maybe relevant is a better word. It was a complete dissection of each idea and in a completely objective point of view, which made it very interesting, to say the last, to my extremely subjective mind.

    I don't think there is a "right" perception. Different perceptions simply are. There's yours, there's mine, there's a monkey's, there's mine on shrooms and mine on salvia and each one of them is as real as the next. The only reason people seem to think the one we normally perceive is reality is because we spend most of our lives in this perception of reality.

    If we spent, instead, most of our lives on shrooms, then that would be far more "real" than that of our sober perception. In the same way, if we had evolved our senses differently, our perception of reality would be completely different from the one we hold now. Would it be any more "right"? Not really, it's just one more way of perceiving the world. Perhaps then we'd take drugs that would make us perceive the world as we do now, and that would be a really cool trip, too. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
    Quote Originally Posted by bigred
    Robots are the next evolution, not enemy
    What is the value in creating our replacements?
    The jury is still out on whether or not we'll be 'replaced'. There is little doubt that a chunk of homo sapiens will be replaced, but that could be via genetic manipulation and hybridization that we simply just exogenously 'evolve' our species.

    But some scientists think that even AI will be able to be kept under control. I'm not qualified to give an opinion on this because I really have no clue what it would take, but I do not see how it would be possible to create egocentric consciousness (which would most likely be a product of simple 3D brain-like computers since consciousness is likely a product of neuronal networks instead of some elusive soul-like specialty) without it becoming its own 'species'.

    And then what we have to worry about is the technological singularity. This is where AI intelligence reaches the point where it increases its own intelligence exponentially. If we ever hit this singularity (we will, and soonish IMO) then human brains will be obsoleted rapidly.

    I'm not disagreeing with you so much as I'm thinking that there's more to the story. For example: somebody somewhere must have thought that biochemical revolution or nuclear revolution was engineering our own demise, and they may turn out to be right. But we've not created a virus or bombs that have killed us all off yet. This suggests that there will be fail-safes that keep AI from venturing out on its own, but we also do not know for sure since AI could be simply a different paradigm which we do not understand
    I have a kid so I've seen Wall-E which poses an interesting question... if we do improve on robotics to ease our labors, even without AI, what effect will that have on us as humans?

    (Obviously Wall-E is not the source of the question, the question being the deterioration of the human species due to lack of physical need)
  39. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty3038
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
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    Robots are the next evolution, not enemy
    What is the value in creating our replacements?
    The jury is still out on whether or not we'll be 'replaced'. There is little doubt that a chunk of homo sapiens will be replaced, but that could be via genetic manipulation and hybridization that we simply just exogenously 'evolve' our species.

    But some scientists think that even AI will be able to be kept under control. I'm not qualified to give an opinion on this because I really have no clue what it would take, but I do not see how it would be possible to create egocentric consciousness (which would most likely be a product of simple 3D brain-like computers since consciousness is likely a product of neuronal networks instead of some elusive soul-like specialty) without it becoming its own 'species'.

    And then what we have to worry about is the technological singularity. This is where AI intelligence reaches the point where it increases its own intelligence exponentially. If we ever hit this singularity (we will, and soonish IMO) then human brains will be obsoleted rapidly.

    I'm not disagreeing with you so much as I'm thinking that there's more to the story. For example: somebody somewhere must have thought that biochemical revolution or nuclear revolution was engineering our own demise, and they may turn out to be right. But we've not created a virus or bombs that have killed us all off yet. This suggests that there will be fail-safes that keep AI from venturing out on its own, but we also do not know for sure since AI could be simply a different paradigm which we do not understand
    I have a kid so I've seen Wall-E which poses an interesting question... if we do improve on robotics to ease our labors, even without AI, what effect will that have on us as humans?

    (Obviously Wall-E is not the source of the question, the question being the deterioration of the human species due to lack of physical need)
    well its not as if this is something that we cant currently observe. In the early 20th century the average job was far more physical and automation was non existent. There were also far fewer obese people and diabetics. The fact that the average person does far less physical labor than before is not the sole contributor to the rise in obesity and diabetes, but it certainly is one of the factors.
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    I don't know enough about AI and robotics to be able to isolate them much. What I do know is that they're two different sciences, but extremely inclusive of each other

    From wiki
    Robotics is the engineering science and technology of robots, and their design, manufacture, and application
    Artificial Intelligence (AI) is the intelligence of machines and the branch of computer science which aims to create it. Major AI textbooks define the field as "the study and design of intelligent agents.....John McCarthy, who coined the term in 1956,[3] defines it as "the science and engineering of making intelligent machines.
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    And it's called hallucination and delusion, gentlemen. Our brains do it all the time. In fact, we probably hallucinate on average like 6 or so hours a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pawnalot
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    quantum computers and parallel universes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4BH231d2Y
    "If parallell universes exists..."

    This story I am about to tell, is probably just my mind playing tricks on me, but nevertheless it was the scariest experience I ever had. It took place about a month ago.

    I had been meditiating for weeks and had truly lost touch with reality. I remember the day before the incidence, when I was sitting in my couch, slowly coming back from deep meditation, not knowing who I was or where I was. First I thought I was in year 2020 and that I was in my forties, but after some more thought I guessed it was probably more like 2006.

    Then after some more meditation, I fell asleep. In the middle of the night (or whatever time it was) I heard a whispering voice calling my name. First it was soft and friendly, so I stood up and stood in the middle of my apartment.

    The voice calling my name, changed into a low pitched buzzing/humming noise. I stood confused and thought maybe it was some electric failure in some kitchen appliances or something else explainable.

    Then the sound escalated in intensity and range of pitch. The sound grew stronger and stronger until I could not hear the voice of myself screaming my lungs out.

    Shortly after, reality started to collapse. My television, bookshelf, stereo, computer, pictures, floor, walls- started disappearing, one by one.

    When all physical objects was gone from my sight, all that was left was a field of wave like psychedelic colours- mostly red, pink, yellow, and blue- but probably many others as well. I could no longer see my feet, as all there was left was these waves.

    Now I noticed in the corner of my living room, that these waves were spinning and waving into a whirlpool. The noises, which at this time was so terrifying I never thought possible, in a way told me this was a gate to a differerent reality. All I had to do was step into the whirlpool, or so I thought.

    Thinking a second or two, I was afraid I was never returning to reality if I entered- so I resisted and wished with all my force to get reality as I knew back into sight.

    The next thing that happened, was that reality started popping back- one item at a time, until my apartment was just like it used to be.

    The intensive noises started calming down, but changed into a laughter. Not an evil laughter, more like a laughter that conveyed amusement over my failure to dare to venture to the other side.

    As the laughter continued, and I went back to bed- I heard the voice telling me; "Go back to bed, you", and I felt there was an implied meaning of cowardice in the commandment.

    Still terrified, I lied in bed listening to the laughter that ensued until it was all gone.

    I have not meditated since, althoough as I stated above- this was probably just my mind playing tricks on me.

    Anyone else had any similar experiences?
    Sounds like an excerpt of this book Im reading. House of Leaves.
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    Some of the latest in character robotics

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjW-v0IPT_M
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    Video on latest of nanotechnology. Shit is off the chain. The nano revolution is going to be about 100x more insane than any previous tech revolutions

    YouTube - The strange new world of Nanoscience, narrated by Stephen Fry
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    ^^ That was interesting... I really like the concepts they introduced... Synesthesia anyone?
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    Pretty sweet vid
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    A few months back was the first successful trial of nanobots killing cancer cells with no side effects. Cancer likely to be cured by 2020 IMO
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    Sounds like a cure has already been found. It's just not widely distributed yet and will never be globally.
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    Oh wait nevermind I take it back

    My sister and her husband recently informed me that cancer was cured a long time ago, but because da gubbermint makes so much money on selling prescriptions, they hide the cure.
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    If cancer gets cured without being replaced by some massive plague-like infestation to curb population growth, we're fucked.

    Beyond resource management, there would just be so many bitter old ppl hanging around and that's just annoying and there would be a smell. Fuck them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Oh wait nevermind I take it back

    My sister and her husband recently informed me that cancer was cured a long time ago, but because da gubbermint makes so much money on selling prescriptions, they hide the cure.
    This isn't what I was getting at. Your family sounds retarded btw, no offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    This isn't what I was getting at. Your family sounds retarded btw, no offense.
    I knew exactly what you were getting at, I was being sarcastic, and yes, my family is fucking insane. They make teabaggers look like immortal geniuses
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    If your sister is that dumb, then she deserves to have her pic posted on the intarwebs.

    Please comply.
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    pics imo
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