I beat my DWI

[fasin8ing]

My Attorney is awesome.



Anyone ever beat a DWI/DUI?

[a500lbgorilla]

explain?

[mcatdog]

This thread sucks.

[bigred]

Hope you don't do it again.

[biondino]

And you want congratulations? A little more fuckin humility wouldn't go amiss.

[Da GOAT]

hmm

[Lukie]

This isn't something I'd be proud of.

[Renton]

I CONQUERED MY OBSESSION WITH ANAL BEADS!

(?)

[bode]

I CONQUERED MY OBSESSION WITH ANAL BEADS!

(?)

congratulations. thats a tough addiction to conquer.

[Pelion]

This isn't something I'd be proud of.

[givememyleg]

[boost]

he got issued a ticket, who says he was actually guilty?

[mcatdog]

he got issued a ticket, who says he was actually guilty?

Himself. There was a thread from a couple of weeks ago where he said he was driving drunk and got pulled over for swerving all over the place, and failed the Breathalyzer.

[Da GOAT]

he got issued a ticket, who says he was actually guilty?

Himself. There was a thread from a couple of weeks ago where he said he was driving drunk and got pulled over for swerving all over the place, and failed the Breathalyzer.

hmm......i like this thread a whole lot less. id be super pissed if my life was in some way affected by a drink driver. Ass.

[Rondavu]

I beat DWI one time

[irishiain]

This is the original thread....

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...316&highlight=

[fasin8ing]

What a bunch of haters.. lol . This isnt a brag post. But then again, I am not really proud about it. I happier that I could pay an Attorney 3K for something that was unfortunate and somewhat irresponsible.

1. I blew a 0.10 - .002 over.
2. I was hanging out with a buddy I havent seen since the War.
3. I made a U turn in my 2005 Dodge and it fishtailed and I got pulled.
4. I had one as in ... ONE more beer than I should , on my way home.

So for all of you who think I was totally wasted on a death wish .. Its not the case. I love all the haters, dont lie .. You have driven before after a little too much.

This is where having money, and good reputation, and being nice to a State Trooper pays off.

[fasin8ing]

he got issued a ticket, who says he was actually guilty?

Himself. There was a thread from a couple of weeks ago where he said he was driving drunk and got pulled over for swerving all over the place, and failed the Breathalyzer.

Who says that I am not a waste to society and have done something productive with my life? As opposed to a 3-4th time offense kind of person who has been in and out of jail throughout their life. I knew and admitted I was wrong. My attorney however; pleaded my case to the DA and presented it in such a way to where I wouldnt have to do anything. He said stuff like .. He did ten years in the military and thats shit you and I wont do .. And shit I dont want my kids doing 5-10 years from now. Somebody actually respected what I did and helped out. As opposed to the due proccess bullshit people usually go through .

[Phantaroth]

Friends don't let friends drive drunk.

Please drink responsibly.

[mcatdog]

I love all the haters, dont lie .. You have driven before after a little too much.

Wrong. I did, however, get a phone call two days ago that a friend's dad just got killed by a drunk driver, so it was pretty exciting to log on this morning and see someone bragging about getting off for it. I've used public transportation or a designated driver every single time I've been anywhere near the legal limit. Just because you're an ass, don't assume that everyone else is one.

Who says that I am not a waste to society and have done something productive with my life? As opposed to a 3-4th time offense kind of person who has been in and out of jail throughout their life. I knew and admitted I was wrong.

Sure you did, that's why you're on here bragging about how awesome you are and saying "everyone does it" which is the worst excuse ever. The fact that you're making that excuse leads me to believe that you've done this more than a few times already and just happened to get caught this time. I wish the government would just confiscate anyone's car who got caught driving drunk, then maybe people would think twice before they did it.

[Renton]

i agree with u mcatdog, but u are taking it a little too far i think. I have had two beers and then driven a fair amount. I think we all have. The legal limit is like any other rule or law, its watered down to the point of ridiculousness just to safeguard against the 2% of America that is actually impaired after that much to drink.

This isn't to condone fasin's situation at all, from what i recall he was swerving and doing donuts and shit. Thats just fucking retarded.

Point is, the legal limit is also retarded. Drinking and driving should be handled on more of a case by case than it is.

[fasin8ing]

Wrong. I did, however, get a phone call two days ago that a friend's dad just got killed by a drunk driver, so it was pretty exciting to log on this morning and see someone bragging about getting off for it.

Iam sorry for your lost. I offered in my plea to donate 500.00 to MADD. Call me an ass if you want. The entire point of this was ... Or should have been .

"You are one lucky SOB for getting off. Thats all."

Nothing to be proud of, however... I just saved a shit load of money by hiring a great defense attorney. This is more or less why I am awesome. Had I been a dumbass and just accepted the bullshit public defender who works basically for the DA ... This wouldnt have happened. My regards to your friend. That sucks, but dont stereotype my situation to someone who comitted vehicular manslaughter. I also think .002 over the limit given the circumstances is a little ridiculous IMO.

[fasin8ing]

This isn't to condone fasin's situation at all, from what i recall he was swerving and doing donuts and shit. Thats just fucking retarded.

And wheelies.

[FlyingSaucy]

Point is, the legal limit is also retarded. Drinking and driving should be handled on more of a case by case than it is.

Standards are needed for any law to have any chance of being followed.

[fasin8ing]

FMP

[ensign_lee]

First off, it's not .002 over, it's .02.

.02/.08 = .25, which means you were 25% more than was legally allowed.

This should not be something you're proud of, and don't try to rationalize it by saying something like 'oh. it was just .002 over', especially when that's not even true.

.10 means that 10% of your blood was alcohol at that point. Think about that for a second.

[fasin8ing]

First off, it's not .002 over, it's .02.

.02/.08 = .25, which means you were 25% more than was legally allowed.

This should not be something you're proud of, and don't try to rationalize it by saying something like 'oh. it was just .002 over', especially when that's not even true.

.10 means that 10% of your blood was alcohol at that point. Think about that for a second.

(A BAC of ³ 0.080 is
legally intoxicated in MOST states).

So your saying...

200lbs person
.019
.038
.056 = 3 drinks... 56 % of his blood is filled with Alcohol?
.075


http://www.drunkdrivingdefense.com/g...-over-time.htm

[mcatdog]

Fasin8ing,

Thanks for your concern, I don't know the guy that well anymore though. He was one of my best friends in grade school and junior high but we hung out with different crowds in high school and haven't kept in touch very much since we graduated. I was still pretty upset to hear about what happened to his dad.

Ensign,

It's not 10%, it's .10% i.e. 1/1000. There's no way a person could survive with even 1% of their blood being alcohol.

[fasin8ing]

Fasin8ing,

Thanks for your concern, I don't know the guy that well anymore though. He was one of my best friends in grade school and junior high but we hung out with different crowds in high school and haven't kept in touch very much since we graduated. I was still pretty upset to hear about what happened to his dad.

Yeah dude.. Iam not like .. Fuck .. Its cool to drink and drive.

I rarely drive after more than 3 drinks anyways. I fixed my post. My attorney is awesome.. Because I was definetly in the wrong. No matter if it was .0001 over. All I was implying is that ... The legal system has some leaks.. I was fortunate. I havent driven after drinking since. People need little reminders sometimes to not be stupid. I happen to be one of those people. I have lost a friend drinking and driving and one that got killed by one.

[bode]

.10 means that 10% of your blood was alcohol at that point. Think about that for a second.

lol

[fasin8ing]

200lbs person
.056 = 3 drinks... 56 % of his blood is filled with Alcohol?

LMAO .

[bigred]

[salsa4ever]

i'll be the first to say it. Congratulations

One thing I hate about Australia. Our legal limit is only 0.05 and we have road blocks (called in Aussie lingo "booze busses") set up everywhere. So lets say the rebellious part of me is glad that you won a victory over the establishment.

That said I hope you don't continue to put other people's lives at risk. I'm all for abolishing laws for victimless crimes like drug possession - I mean if you wanna kill yourself I don't care. Just don't kill me and my family while you're at it.

[bigred]

i'll be the first to say it. Congratulations

One thing I hate about Australia. Our legal limit is only 0.05 and we have road blocks (called in Aussie lingo "booze busses") set up everywhere. So lets say the rebellious part of me is glad that you won a victory over the establishment.

That said I hope you don't continue to put other people's lives at risk. I'm all for abolishing laws for victimless crimes like drug possession - I mean if you wanna kill yourself I don't care. Just don't kill me and my family while you're at it.

Yeah man, high five! Down with the man and establishment! Let's hit some families driving home and kill them too! Man, we are so showing our rebelliousness!

[swiggidy]

You guys realize that something ridiculous like 85% of drunk driving accidents are caused by people with an alcohol % over 0.2? Lowering the limit from 0.1 to 0.08 was retarded.

A writer for the Akron Beacon Journal did his own un-official study where him and a buddy went to the inventor's hall of fame and tested their response time, went to a bar had 4 beers each, came back and did it again. His buddy had a faster response the second time, they both did better than several other random testers who had consumed no alcohol.

Don't get me wrong, I think drunk driving is retarded, but having 4 drinks at happy hour shouldn't be a life altering offense.

FWIW, I was in a drunk driving accident (the sober side of a head-on collision on an interstate highway, so ~120 mph) where I almost died. Obv I didn't, but my ankle will bother me for the rest of my life (and will probably turn arthritic around 50).

[boost]

dude.. its a bad thing to do, chill the fuck out coming down him though. Being violent to your spouse is wrong too, lolo ok not really but lets pretend so I can make my point, but it happens, but it still feels good if your wife stays with you and gives you another chance. Hes not glorifying what he did, but he is happy that he isnt in jail/license suspended/w/e.

I just hate these subjects in which everyone feels they have to berate someone for something that is just a bad decisiion, something we all find ourselves doing, making bad decisions that is.

[bigred]

Does beating your wife also qualify as beating the system? I want to rebel!

[boost]

Does beating your wife also qualify as beating the system? I want to rebel!

as long as you have that bitch tellin the flat foots that she got the black eye from running into a door. Then beat her after they leave for making enough noise during the first beating to warrant the neighbors making a concerned call to the police.

[ensign_lee]

.10 means that 10% of your blood was alcohol at that point. Think about that for a second.

lol

My bad.

That sentence should read

.10 means that .10% of your blodd is alcohol at that point. Think about that for a second.

[Harry]

awesome thread

[bigspenda73]

Drunk driving is not the smartest thing to do. I've been hit by a drunk driver before and it sucked. I have been pulled over piss-ass drunk before and was let off. There are just some times where you get in your truck 10 minutes from home and about 5 minutes from your place you realize you are fucked up.

I don't advocate drunk driving but it's cool that you got away with it. Hopefully you learned some sort of lesson along the way.

[bigred]

Does beating your wife also qualify as beating the system? I want to rebel!

as long as you have that bitch tellin the flat foots that she got the black eye from running into a door. Then beat her after they leave for making enough noise during the first beating to warrant the neighbors making a concerned call to the police.

You make me laugh boost.

[chardrian]

Nothing to be proud of, however... I just saved a shit load of money by hiring a great defense attorney. This is more or less why I am awesome. Had I been a dumbass and just accepted the bullshit public defender who works basically for the DA ... This wouldnt have happened. My regards to your friend. That sucks, but dont stereotype my situation to someone who comitted vehicular manslaughter. I also think .002 over the limit given the circumstances is a little ridiculous IMO.

If you had money to pay a defense attorney, you would not have qualified for a public defender. You need to be dirt poor to qualify for one in most jurisdictions - and by dirt poor, I mean dirt poor... In our county, a single person needs to be earning something like $7k or less a year to qualify.

Also, the fact that in most states both the DA and the public defender are paid by the state, does not mean that public defenders are basically just sucking off the DAs. The reason most public defenders suck ass is because they generally have just graduated law school and have little experience, they also have gargantuan case loads, and the turnover is very high due to poor pay, high stress, little rewards, and a horrible stigma (oh my god - how can you defend child molesters and murderers??).

You are correct that you are fortunate enough that you can pay for an attorney - but to be honest, even those dumbass public defenders probably could have gotten you the same result given that this was your first offense.

[a500lbgorilla]

BEER - Psychostick

I like beer 'cuz it is good
I drink beer because I should
if there was a song to sing
I sing it and beer you bring
I drink beer when I am sad
'cuz the beer it makes me glad
now there's nothing left to say
so lets go drink beer

Beer is good
Beer is good
Beer is good
... and Stuff

Beer is good
Beer is good
Beer is good
let's go drink some BEER

BEER

when its warm it taste's real crappy
but cold beer will make me happy
when I throw up on the floor
I can go and drink some more
they say beer will make me dumb
it are go good with pizza
now that we have drunk some beer
lets go drive a car

Beer is good
Beer is good
Beer is good
....and stuff

Beer is good
Beer is good
Beer is good
let's go drink some BEER

Beer

uh dude.. I think you've had enough
...No

lets go drink some beer.

I am drunk, drunk as me, I am drunk, wheee
I am drunk, drunk as me, I am drunk wheee
i am drunk, drunk as me, I am...

[biondino]

In this country it's a mandatory 12 month licence suspension, plus fines and/or imprisonment. If you do it again, the punishment grows exponentially.

A writer for the Akron Beacon Journal did his own un-official study where him and a buddy went to the inventor's hall of fame and tested their response time, went to a bar had 4 beers each, came back and did it again. His buddy had a faster response the second time, they both did better than several other random testers who had consumed no alcohol.

I call bullshit. I suspect a conscious or subconscious effort on the parts of the participants to skew the experiment in the direction they wanted it to go. And even if the results were absolutely kosher, I think we of all people know 2 = too small sample size.

I once got in my car wasted - so drunk I didn't even realise it was a mistake. A friend pulled me out of it, physically. When I was sober enough to understand what I'd done I was almost sick. Never again.

Drink driving is one of those things which is simply, unequivocally all bad, all the time.

[Miffed22001]

im glad you arent in jail
I hope your sorry
I hope you wont do it again.

We all make mistakes one time. Amirite?

[fasin8ing]

Nothing to be proud of, however... I just saved a shit load of money by hiring a great defense attorney. This is more or less why I am awesome. Had I been a dumbass and just accepted the bullshit public defender who works basically for the DA ... This wouldnt have happened. My regards to your friend. That sucks, but dont stereotype my situation to someone who comitted vehicular manslaughter. I also think .002 over the limit given the circumstances is a little ridiculous IMO.

If you had money to pay a defense attorney, you would not have qualified for a public defender. You need to be dirt poor to qualify for one in most jurisdictions - and by dirt poor, I mean dirt poor... In our county, a single person needs to be earning something like $7k or less a year to qualify.

Also, the fact that in most states both the DA and the public defender are paid by the state, does not mean that public defenders are basically just sucking off the DAs. The reason most public defenders suck ass is because they generally have just graduated law school and have little experience, they also have gargantuan case loads, and the turnover is very high due to poor pay, high stress, little rewards, and a horrible stigma (oh my god - how can you defend child molesters and murderers??).

You are correct that you are fortunate enough that you can pay for an attorney - but to be honest, even those dumbass public defenders probably could have gotten you the same result given that this was your first offense.

Are you a public defender Chard?

[chardrian]

No - but I appreciate the work they do.

[salsa4ever]

i'll be the first to say it. Congratulations

One thing I hate about Australia. Our legal limit is only 0.05 and we have road blocks (called in Aussie lingo "booze busses") set up everywhere. So lets say the rebellious part of me is glad that you won a victory over the establishment.

That said I hope you don't continue to put other people's lives at risk. I'm all for abolishing laws for victimless crimes like drug possession - I mean if you wanna kill yourself I don't care. Just don't kill me and my family while you're at it.

Yeah man, high five! Down with the man and establishment! Let's hit some families driving home and kill them too! Man, we are so showing our rebelliousness!

*start flame*

What the fuck is your problem? Are you a retarded geek shit who tries to be funny and fails and pretends to be gay and fails and try to prove how much smarter you are than me and fails?

I *said* drink driving is a dumb idea and I acknowledge that there are innocent third parties that suffer when things go wrong. But the fact is nothing *did* go wrong this time; what is wrong with giving him a high five that he beat the establishment?

Of course I'd be even happier if he beat a drug posession charge.

*end flame*

If you believe him, which I have no reason not to; he wasn't drunk. He was simply over the limit that was arbitrarily set and arbitrarily altered and arbitrarily enforced.

[mcatdog]

Boost,

I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I bashed so hard on fasin8ing at first was because he came off like he was bragging about what he did. He apologized for that and edited it so I don't have so much of a problem with this thread anymore.

Also, bigred was right all along when he said to lock this thread. Instead we got this dramabomb.

[salsa4ever]

In this country it's a mandatory 12 month licence suspension, plus fines and/or imprisonment. If you do it again, the punishment grows exponentially.

A writer for the Akron Beacon Journal did his own un-official study where him and a buddy went to the inventor's hall of fame and tested their response time, went to a bar had 4 beers each, came back and did it again. His buddy had a faster response the second time, they both did better than several other random testers who had consumed no alcohol.

I call bullshit. I suspect a conscious or subconscious effort on the parts of the participants to skew the experiment in the direction they wanted it to go. And even if the results were absolutely kosher, I think we of all people know 2 = too small sample size.

I once got in my car wasted - so drunk I didn't even realise it was a mistake. A friend pulled me out of it, physically. When I was sober enough to understand what I'd done I was almost sick. Never again.

Drink driving is one of those things which is simply, unequivocally all bad, all the time.

What's "drunk driving"?

Is it driving while you're drunk, or otherwise too incapacitated to drive safely?

Or is it being over a certain alchohol/blood percentage that doesn't take into account your skill and experience (or lack thereof), your tolerance to alchohol?

When we think of "drink driving" we think of the times when we're out with buddies and we have 8 drinks each and someone stumbles in the car saying "I'M NOT FUCKING DRUNK" and drives you home at 70 miles an hour on a narrow winding road singing Kumbaya and nearly stacking 3 times on the way home (or did stack). It's kinda like remembering the time when you're top full house gets you stacked by a gapped straight... yeah sure you remember it cos it's memorable but it's not an accurate representation of the whole truth. 99.9% of the time you drive home, a little over the legal limit but perfectly fine with no drama.

I did an internship with Vicroads, the traffic authority for my state. Internal records show 93% of drink driving charges are filed against people who were tested 0.10 or lower. That's somethink like 2 glasses of wine for a girl and 3 standard beers for a guy. If that's the worst thing I'll do this lifetime, I'll say I've been a very good man.

[boost]

salsa, dont sweat it man, I know where youre coming from, but I do think bigred was just trying to be funny, and not really even at your expense.

[fasin8ing]

11 Feb is National Attorney Appreciation Day .

[bigred]

i'll be the first to say it. Congratulations

One thing I hate about Australia. Our legal limit is only 0.05 and we have road blocks (called in Aussie lingo "booze busses") set up everywhere. So lets say the rebellious part of me is glad that you won a victory over the establishment.

That said I hope you don't continue to put other people's lives at risk. I'm all for abolishing laws for victimless crimes like drug possession - I mean if you wanna kill yourself I don't care. Just don't kill me and my family while you're at it.

Yeah man, high five! Down with the man and establishment! Let's hit some families driving home and kill them too! Man, we are so showing our rebelliousness!

*start flame*

What the fuck is your problem? Are you a retarded geek shit who tries to be funny and fails and pretends to be gay and fails and try to prove how much smarter you are than me and fails?

I *said* drink driving is a dumb idea and I acknowledge that there are innocent third parties that suffer when things go wrong. But the fact is nothing *did* go wrong this time; what is wrong with giving him a high five that he beat the establishment?

Of course I'd be even happier if he beat a drug posession charge.

*end flame*

If you believe him, which I have no reason not to; he wasn't drunk. He was simply over the limit that was arbitrarily set and arbitrarily altered and arbitrarily enforced.

[bigred]

Oh, and there's everything wrong with beating "the establishment" not to mention your horrible argument of "nothing went wrong this time". You can't be lenient on DWI/DUI charges. People need incentive not to drink and drive. Leniency leads towards a relaxed view of DWI charges and more people saying "Oh I can have a few more drinks." I'll stay quiet if I'm the only one who feels this way but I would rather have the harshest DWI penalties out there just to prevent the death of even one person from a drunk driver at the cost of some dipshit (not referring to you fascin, I don't think you're a bad guy) having to "sacrifice" alcohol. Oh boo hoo, I had my license suspended because I had too many drinks and then drove home when I know it's wrong. It is such a cruel life. Damn those families who had to deal with loved ones dying from a drunk driver, damn them and their privileged ways while I have to abstain from alcohol.

Next time try making an argument in salsa/interpretive dance, you might make a valid point.

[frands1]

200lbs person
.056 = 3 drinks... 56 % of his blood is filled with Alcohol?

LMAO .

LOL this guy lmao'ed at his own quote. Calling attention?? roflmao

[biondino]

Bigred on the money. Salsa, I don't know what's got into you on this thread, YOU'RE NOT USUALLY LIKE THIS. Of course the limit has to be an arbitrary one! Everything's arbitrary! The only non-arbitrary limit would be zero! And of course it will be towards the lower end of the scale - if some people are impaired at (or even below) the limit, then we need to stop them driving while impaired.

The government and the law have a lot of dumb, unfair or disproportional rules we're expected to follow. Forbidding driving while impaired by alcohol is not one of them. I assume you've had some kind of run-in with the law? Drugs maybe? Fine, you have a genuine grievance, BUT NOT WITH THIS.

[Pelion]

Internal records show 93% of drink driving charges are filed against people who were tested 0.10 or lower. That's somethink like 2 glasses of wine for a girl and 3 standard beers for a guy.

I know plenty of girls whos reactions are at least a little slower after 2 glasses of wine and I know plenty of guys who sometimes get tipsy after 2 beers let alone 3.
The limit has to be an arbitrary limit because a sliding scale would be ambiguous and people would go over it without realising.
I know from experience that some days I can have 4 beers and not be affected at all while other days I can feel tipsy after half a pint.

We all know alcohol slows our reactions despite the completely scientific experiment by the Akron Beacon Journal. Is it really so hard to just not drink when you know you are driving?

[biondino]

Here's an analogy you might enjoy. I am a 6-foot, 180-pound male. It is likely that roughly half a bottle of wine would put me over the legal limit in the UK.

When I play poker, I often have a drink as well. After one glass of wine, my play is unaffected. After 2 glasses, sometimes I feel impaired, sometimes it seems to make little difference.

After 3 glasses of wine, I would say I am perilously close to no longer being a winning player. Obviously I have no stats on this, but without a shadow of a doubt my play is worse, I am more prone to tilt, to call with bad odds, and to pick the wrong spots to make moves. If I were playing with purely profit in mind, I wouldn't even let myself drink 3 glasses of wine (or if I did, I'd step away from the tables).

The analogy's a pretty straightforward one, I think.

[salsa4ever]

Bigred on the money. Salsa, I don't know what's got into you on this thread, YOU'RE NOT USUALLY LIKE THIS. Of course the limit has to be an arbitrary one! Everything's arbitrary! The only non-arbitrary limit would be zero! And of course it will be towards the lower end of the scale - if some people are impaired at (or even below) the limit, then we need to stop them driving while impaired.

The government and the law have a lot of dumb, unfair or disproportional rules we're expected to follow. Forbidding driving while impaired by alcohol is not one of them. I assume you've had some kind of run-in with the law? Drugs maybe? Fine, you have a genuine grievance, BUT NOT WITH THIS.

Yeah I guess so.

The problem with any argument I could make is that drink driving is an activity that puts innocent third parties at risk.

All I can say is I think the penalties imposed at the lower end of infringements, especially in my home country of Australia where a first offence of 0.06 will get your license immediately suspended and a big fine are disproportionate to the risk actually posed to the community. But as long as people who think like me are in the minority, I guess we'll all be safe.

Yes I've been in trouble with drug possession and it the associated criminal record will be an incovenience to me if I wish to become a solicitor/barrister, but not fatal. I currently work part time for small law firm and one of their specialties in criminal defense for drug possession and acquisition (not trafficking and commercial quantities). I work in that department and derive much pleasure from my work.

[Pelion]

The problem with any argument I could make is that drink driving is an activity that puts innocent third parties at risk.

Thats exactly why I think it should be treated harshly. You almost never endanger anyone else by possessing drugs. The penalties there are far too high.

[Pelion]

deleted because God is fucking with my mind

[spoonitnow]

gg

[mrhappy333]

holy dramaments