ITT I explain why the nation is so fucked up

[Smith]

The world runs on a rigged money system. Do your research. Educate yourself

That's how individuals, governments, and companies can be all broke at the same time!!!

Everything else is divide and control by the powers that be. (political issues, social issues, economic issues etc...)

"Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws"
-Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild

[surviva316]

The world runs on a rigged money system. Do your research. Educate yourself

That's how individuals, governments, and companies can be all broke at the same time!!!

Everything else is divide and control by the powers that be. (political issues, social issues, economic issues etc...)

"Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws"
-Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild

you referring to the fed?

if so, i know the zeitgeist movie thing talked about this, and the factual basis of it got mixed reviews. i plead ignorance. what's your verdict gambling strangers of the interwebz?!?!

[wufwugy]

you referring to the fed?

if so, i know the zeitgeist movie thing talked about this, and the factual basis of it got mixed reviews. i plead ignorance. what's your verdict gambling strangers of the interwebz?!?!

Yeah he clearly comes from the Zeitgeist opinion

Stuff is a mixed bag. It's partially correct, the "debunkings" are partially correct, and there's a whole lot of simply unknowns and theory

It's not currently possible to attempt a comprehensive analysis/critique of the monetary/economic system without invoking a crapload of arguably false positions.

A lot of the basics ideas in Zeitgeist are correct though. Like the distorted incentives of monetarism without moralism.

[Smith]

There is a vast amount of information out there. Zeitgeist is just a tip to get people to start questioning and start learning for themselves.

I've learned so much the last seven years, and its very very fucked up and frightening. You have to do a lot of learning (thinking) from good sources though. Then you can come up with what makes most logical sense to yourself.

If somebody could give me a logical reason why individuals, governments, and companies are all broke at the same time. I would really love to hear it.


Money as Debt
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Money Masters
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[Ash256]

If somebody could give me a logical reason why individuals, governments, and companies are all broke at the same time. I would really love to hear it.

banks lend less due to shrinkage of balance sheets -> banks lend less to businesses -> businesses go bust -> people get laid off -> people and businesses pay less tax -> the government's tax income declines -> public sector workers get laid off -> everyone pumps less money into businesses -> businesses search for loans -> banks lend less due to shrinkage of balance sheets

[Smith]

banks lend less due to shrinkage of balance sheets -> banks lend less to businesses -> businesses go bust -> people get laid off -> people and businesses pay less tax -> the government's tax income declines -> public sector workers get laid off -> everyone pumps less money into businesses -> businesses search for loans -> banks lend less due to shrinkage of balance sheets

Yes there is a cascading affect, but that doesn't get to the root of the issue. Also that's a simplistic way of looking at it without seeing all the variables. Unfortunately there is a lot more to it then that.

Taxing the rich at 90% is hardly the answer either. Especially considering where that tax money actually goes, and where it gets appropriated to. An Eisenhower view is completely unfair to rich people. I can't believe I just said that.... lol

The real problem is Usury. The usury of the government, and its people. Now it's instituted world wide through the World Bank, and IMF. Not to mention the problem with US Treasuries, and the link of US Dollars to Oil. That's another whole can of worms too.

That reminds me that Confessions of an Economic Hitman is a good book on how foreign governments are taken down, and enslaved to this monetary system.

[Monty3038]

The world runs on a rigged money system. Do your research. Educate yourself

That's how individuals, governments, and companies can be all broke at the same time!!!

Everything else is divide and control by the powers that be. (political issues, social issues, economic issues etc...)

"Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws"
-Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild

I think that everything and everyone is broke all of the damn time because we all live beyond our means.

I make plenty of money to live a happy, successful life in the US presently, but am I satisfied with it... hell no, I'm an American damn it!

[a500lbgorilla]

I think that everything and everyone is broke all of the damn time because we all live beyond our means.

I make plenty of money to live a happy, successful life in the US presently, but am I satisfied with it... hell no, I'm an American damn it!

So it's all your fault? I should've known. You always seemed a bit commie to me.

Oh, wait, 2011... You always seemed a bit muslim to me.

[BennyLaRue]

Oh, wait, 2011... You always seemed a bit muslim to me.

You got there pretty quickly. Sounds to me like a muslim trying to overcompensate.

I'm on to you, Shiite.