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 Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
I don't see how you, wuf, can even argue with this.
You said that every human action is a result of that person attempting to maximize their utility, even when the result is the opposite of maximizing their utility.
You said a person not addicted to heroine choosing to use heroine and in all likelihood become addicted is acting out of maximizing their utility. You said that all "negative outcomes" which happen to anyone are the result of those people acting to maximize their utility.
As it stands, all you've said is... here is a new word... it means everything bad that happens is the result of someone trying to make good happen, and all the good things, too. The word means all the things are 'cause people are trying to be good! They're just really bad at it, sometimes.
People that use heroin are doing so due to a choice they are making that is usually a result of a pretty situation which it is an escape from. It's been shown that drug addictions are much less crippling both in terms of dealing with them and getting them in the first place in better off societies.
When people are making choices what exactly do you think is driving those choices?
Not that I don't agree that it's a fairly empty definition due to how vague it is & how poorly understood what really drives are decisions are.
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