Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
When people are making choices what exactly do you think is driving those choices?
Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
IDK. People lie about why they do things all the do da day. I have observed that some people exhibit self-destructive behavior and will admit to as much when asked.
Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
Not sure what this has to do with it & why it couldn't tie in.
I'm not sure why my (lack of) understanding on the matter is relevant, mostly. Nonetheless, I think people have a variety of motivations which drive them throughout any given hour of every day. I can't figure out how I'm supposed to know what any of those are, though.

I can't think of any way to find out other than to ask the people why they did what they did.

Problem is: people are unreliable sources - especially when asked about their motivations.

Even discarding the unreliable reports about their motivations, I find the statement that there is no such thing as intentionally self-destructive behavior to be ignoring a wealth of evidence.

To write off the matter as if to say that all people are basically good is fine. You'll never hear me encourage anyone to act as though anything else were true. I've said repeatedly that I will choose to believe this even against evidence showing me otherwise.

So on the one hand, I think it's a fine attitude to hold about people - that they always act toward the greatest good they conceive. On the other hand, it seems to be blindly at odds with the actual reality of human experiences.

I'm not turning to economics for moral piece of mind, though. I can find much better sources for that.