limewire busted

[triumphant cracker]

so now that they got busted, where do you get free music?

[kiwiMark]

good to see that your piracy methods are about as dated as your bigotry

[BooG690]

good to see that your piracy methods are about as dated as your bigotry

Kiwi pwnd this thread early. There's no reason to even post here any more.

One of your best performances Kiwi. Nice work.

[bigred]

good to see that your piracy methods are about as dated as your bigotry

so much win!

[Ash256]

good to see that your piracy methods are about as dated as your bigotry

[triumphant cracker]

good to see that your piracy methods are about as dated as your bigotry

heh heh heh

[BankItDrew]

^^^^^
LOLOLOLOL

[jyms]

Wow, I stopped using limewire and Kazaa about 5 years ago.

[BankItDrew]

Did you guys hear about this new thing called Napster? Apparently you can get music for free using it.

[bikes]

kiwimark laying down the own.

[BennyLaRue]

Back to the dual cassette deck, I guess.

[kmind]

soulseek

[Halv]

Never used limewire. Barely remember napster and kazaa. DC++ was the shit in uni with private local hubs and 10MB/s+. Been using torrents for a good while now, are they outdated yet?

[Monty3038]

Please, Please run an antivirus scan on your system if you still use LimeWire, Kazaa, or BearShare for gods sakes.

Used to consult for a company where the doc used all three on his computers, man, what a mess.

[Renton]

audiogalaxy imo

[boost]

DC++ was awesome, but it could be tough getting into private hubs. With torrents being so much more widespread, you probably know someone with an invite to any given private torrent list.

[kingnat]

DC++ was awesome, but it could be tough getting into private hubs. With torrents being so much more widespread, you probably know someone with an invite to any given private torrent list.

invite?

[boost]

invite?

please flesh out your question as I am not sure exactly what you are asking. You want me to give you an invite to a private torrent site, or you don't understand the concept of private torrents and the invite system they use?

[bode]

i only download music 3-4 times a year anymore, but i still used limewire :P. i need someone younger than me to teach me how to use torrents or something else i guess.

[GatorJH]

i only download music 3-4 times a year anymore, but i still used limewire :P. i need someone younger than me to teach me how to use torrents or something else i guess.

kinda this. My 15 yo son still uses limewire so i would love to find something less risky (from a virus, spamware perspective) for him to use.

I guess I have some googling to do.

[jdubs]

Don't steal music. Please.

Your resident musician,

JD

[boost]

Don't steal music. Please.

Your resident musician,

JD

meh, the industry will evolve. I mean, unless I'm missing something, there is (or soon will be) no real reason for record labels to exist in the capacity that they currently do. If you don't have this gluttonous middle man in the equation, why does a song need to cost $1 and an album 10-$20? Music can cost less, artists can make a larger share, and under the new system creativity and niches will actually be viable musical outlets for artists.

[jdubs]

meh, the industry will evolve. I mean, unless I'm missing something, there is (or soon will be) no real reason for record labels to exist in the capacity that they currently do. If you don't have this gluttonous middle man in the equation, why does a song need to cost $1 and an album 10-$20? Music can cost less, artists can make a larger share, and under the new system creativity and niches will actually be viable musical outlets for artists.

Agreed. Already many people are setting their own prices for downloads at less than $1, and many full "CD"s are under $10. There's no reason for $15 albums really, that was under the old school costs of record labels spending x thousands on a record and needing to charge that much as a result. Now you can make a really great sounding record for 5-10 grand, and there's really not a need (or market) to sell it for $15.

[jdubs]

You can get a subscription to Napster, or Rhapsody , or a many others for like 10$ a month. Don't have to worry about viruses, and you can stream just about any song you want.

[BooG690]

LOL paying for music. The commune cracks me up sometimes.

[jdubs]

LOL paying for music. The commune cracks me up sometimes.

LOL theft

[kiwiMark]

I buy all my music from iTMS

[philly and the phanatics]

soulseek was the shit, idk if anyone uses it anymore...but yea torrents and DC++ have already been mentioned

[Ash256]

I'm not saying I don't do it, but there is rarely any moral justification for piracy

[boost]

I'm not saying I don't do it, but there is rarely any moral justification for piracy

I can't agree with this. Sure its not cut and dry, white and black morality. But I think what is happening in terms of piracy is very organic. Without piracy we would not have this (imo) very positive evolution of the industry. Without piracy we just keep feeding an archaic industry and flexible (choose your price) sales would have likely never seen the light of day. So while I cannot justify the morality of it on a personal level necessarily, I think widespread piracy in our society has an overall positive outcome.

[Hawk]

For most musicians, isn't obscurity a much bigger problem than piracy? Sure they'd prefer that people bought the music, but if it's me I'd rather people listen for free than not listen at all.

At least half of my music collection is stuff that I never would have spent the money on without having downloaded it first. I have bought quite a few albums I downloaded first. I still have quite a few more I want to buy. I also have downloaded a ton that I'm glad as hell that I never spent a penny on because it flat out sucks.

[jdubs]

Minnesota Mom Hit With $1.5 Million Fine for Downloading 24 Songs - Amplifier

[JKDS]

Minnesota Mom Hit With $1.5 Million Fine for Downloading 24 Songs - Amplifier

A bunch of pissed off assholes abusing the US justice system. $1.5 million dollars for 24 songs that cost $1 each is clearly an excessive amount and violates the 8th amendment. Like, theres really no argument that it doesn't. But hey, if it passes by the first court, it will take forever to be appealed so lets do it!

Of course it was appealed and lowered to $54 thousand. But again, thats clearly an excessive amount and violates the 8th amendment. You cant justify charging someone 2250x the cost of what was stolen. Itd be like, if you got caught shoplifting an apple from a grocery store and then had to pay a $2250 fine. Its laughable.

[Jack Sawyer]

Minnesota Mom Hit With $1.5 Million Fine for Downloading 24 Songs - Amplifier

New Zealand P2P proposal: guilty until proven innocent

[wufwugy]

With the current piracy paradigm, the industry is actually more profitable.

Because I am more intelligent than the fuckwads who luckboxed their way into massive multicorp power, if I was in their position I would do everything I could to freely proliferate the music I produce. Not doing so is a very basic econ mistake due to things like enormous gaps in advertisement power, consumption power, behavioral econ, and other stuff. The dumbshits in the industry who haven't been leaping all over improving free sharing while hugely boosting their profits are dumbshits who don't deserve the money they lucked into

Put in very simplistic terms, people are very thrifty when they have the money. These people will spend a lot more money for a slight improvement. They buy the 1k$ seats or the special edition disk. There is a colossal gap in purchasing power that puts the vast majority of people out of this category. Giving them free music is some of the best advertising imaginable, and it does nothing to hinder sales since when people have the money they spend it on the best product they can.

The industry dipshits make more money when piracy exists, yet they either don't know it or are so greedy they want to guilt trip people into thinking they're doing wrong and sue them for even more money. The most likely scenario is actually the former since people, even business leaders, are generally fucking retards. Besides, our current patent law would be considered heinous and criminal compared to original intent. Besides again, if you're stealing from a multinational corp, you're not stealing. These monstrosities are assraping all of human society. They siphon off insane amounts of limited resources away from circulation from the populace. As long as the taxes these cuntfucks pay is substantially lower than an immigrant farmer, "stealing" from them is really heroing and the right thing to do.

The mega wealthy have convinced us that they deserve five hours of anal raping a night, and when we complain and only want to be molested for four hours we think we're taking what we don't deserve

[Hawk]

I don't think it's actually the downloading that is the "reason" for the big dollars, it's the sharing.

It's still bullshit, but that's where it comes from.

[JL]

Moving to Canada seems like the most +EV thing to do.

[Galapogos]

Moving to Canada seems like the most +EV thing to do.

Shhhhh

[kevster]

D- Commune.

I come back from a few stressful weeks at work to find you throwing about arguments that are literally years old. We all know the facts - good and bad. What's the point of this thread? Impress me dammit!!!!

P.S. I liked BigRed's weed thread.

[kiwiMark]

god damnit not again.

[KoRnholio]

Youtube.