lol BCSaments

[ensign_lee]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Wow...this championship game is going to be soooooooo f*ed up!!!!

and there are going to be SOOOOOOOOOOOO many pissed of schools. WOW.

[WildBobAA]

yeah OSU gets in by default but who are they going to play? WTF

[WildBobAA]

A playoff would be good right about now.

[ensign_lee]

...indeed.

[mcatdog]

Screw a playoff, all the upsets this season wouldn't have been nearly as awesome if there was one.

Probably should be LSU vs OSU as annoying as that is.

[bigspenda73]

im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone

[ProZachNation]

lol every year its the same thing

[EzDuzIt]

OSU vs...? georgia? lsu? VT (id like to see them get it), OU?

[a500lbgorilla]

I wish they at least mention VT as possibility for the title game. But that big loss early hurt our cred.

[vqc]

LSU has about as much reason to be in the champ game as Hawaii.

[EzDuzIt]

I wish they at least mention VT as possibility for the title game. But that big loss early hurt our cred.

yeah, but theyve changed QB's since that blowout loss havent they? i would like to see them vs OSU

[iolzizlyi]

vt is definitely a contender for the title game. they won the ACC. as much as i know georgia would beat the hell out of ohio state, we won't go because we didn't win the SEC. look for OSU and VT. or as much as it pains me, OSU and kansas...in which case i'll just watch the sugar bowl. LSU won't go because they lost too late in the season.

i still think my dawgs are the second best in the country. oh and USC is the best. these two should be playing the championship regardless.

[EzDuzIt]

USC is not the best. i think Oregon would be if Dixon didnt get hurt. i think OSU is the best ive actually thought that for awhile. i was hoping to see OSU kill WVU but now that they lost i think VT deserves to get it.

oh and which SEC team does Wisconsin get to beat this year?

[will641]

im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone

dude, if they didnt have key players injured all season they would be in it right now.

[EzDuzIt]

no they wouldnt. other teams have had injuries too. look at oregon with dixon they would probably be taking one of the spots right now if he doesnt get hurt. lsu should have lost more games this season than they did.

[mcatdog]

im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone

Nah they're getting by because everyone else (except for Ohio State) choked as bad if not worse than they did. Who do you think should be in the game and please don't say Hawaii.

[will641]

im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone

Nah they're getting by because everyone else (except for Ohio State) choked as bad if not worse than they did. Who do you think should be in the game and please don't say Hawaii.

lets be honest, does any team this year deserve to be in the BCS team. I would like to see Mizzou just cause they are a nobody. And Ohio State choked like a mother fucker to Illinois let's not forget. I can't think of a single team (ill let go of my LSU bias) that hands down has earned it. If someone can think of one im overlooking please inform me.

[vqc]

im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone

Nah they're getting by because everyone else (except for Ohio State) choked as bad if not worse than they did. Who do you think should be in the game and please don't say Hawaii.

lets be honest, does any team this year deserve to be in the BCS team. I would like to see Mizzou just cause they are a nobody. And Ohio State choked like a mother fucker to Illinois let's not forget. I can't think of a single team (ill let go of my LSU bias) that hands down has earned it. If someone can think of one im overlooking please inform me.

Exactly, and because of this, we should just revert completely back to the pre-season rankings and have the champ game be USC v. LSU. That would make me happy.

In any case, if we were to have the top 8 (BCS) teams this year have a play off. Who would win?

[kingnat]

I think it's pretty fucked up that Missouri with two losses isn't likely to be represented in the BCS games, and Kansas most likely is... that's screwed up.

As far as the championship game... there are many teams that could be put in there... I don't think anyone really "deserves" it... except Hawaii... who I think would get absolutely crushed by ANYONE they played.

LSU is the best team... their two losses game both came in triple OT. And if Glenn Dorsey would not have been cut block in the Auburn game... They'd be #1.. imo.

[kingnat]

Didn't they install a rule after 2001, that you must win your conference championship to play in the National Title Game?... there sure was a lot of talk about it after Colorado rolled NU in the last game of the season, won the Big 12, then due to bizarre loses, NU got to the championship game. Anyone remember this?

[a500lbgorilla]

I wish they at least mention VT as possibility for the title game. But that big loss early hurt our cred.

yeah, but theyve changed QB's since that blowout loss havent they? i would like to see them vs OSU

Our offensive line was terrible in the LSU game. Since then we got some injured guys back and returned all of the players to their natural positions and our offense has looked good. And even allowing like 600 yrds and 40 points against LSU our defense is top 5 (prior to the ACC game).

imo, let Georgia play. It's been such an eff-ed up year and those guys are fun to watch.

[WildBobAA]

Didn't they install a rule after 2001, that you must win your conference championship to play in the National Title Game?... there sure was a lot of talk about it after Colorado rolled NU in the last game of the season, won the Big 12, then due to bizarre loses, NU got to the championship game. Anyone remember this?

No, you don't have to win your conference to play in the title game. Remember last year when OSU was in the title game and there was all that controversy between Michigan and Florida? Well obviously Michigan didn't win the Big Ten.

Sadly, it's going to be LSU vs OSU. The voters aren't going to put Georgia or Kansas in because they didn't win their own conferences (neither even won their own division within their conference). VT isn't going to go because the voters aren't going to put them ahead of LSU because of their loss to LSU even though it was early in the season.

It really comes down to LSU vs OU vs USC and I think LSU is going to go just based on them winning the best conference in the country. If you look at their schedule, it's just ridiculous.

[Sprayed]

Here's my 2 cents, since I'm a big OSU fan. Bring on anyone from the SEC. If OSU gets beat by an SEC team, so be it. It will finally prove that SEC is better than the Big Ten. If OSU wins, then this will quiet all the people who think that OSU sucks and the SEC is a monster.

[iolzizlyi]

umm florida beat OSU last year. beat the hell out of them. and the SEC IS a monster. just compare schedules. 2 loss in the SEC is equivalent to any other team in the country going undefeated. big 10 has two teams: ohio state and michigan. sec has 12 good teams. i'm so sick of overrated ohio state. hawaii gets shafted based on strength of schedule. why does ohio state get so much respect?

[WildBobAA]

It will finally prove that SEC is better than the Big Ten.

Uhm, everyone has already known this for like the past 5 years.

[UG]

Hawaii vs. somebody

[bigspenda73]

im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone

Nah they're getting by because everyone else (except for Ohio State) choked as bad if not worse than they did. Who do you think should be in the game and please don't say Hawaii.

funny you ask, E_Lee and I had a heated debate last night.

I settled on Oklahoma and either Georgia/LSU. I am really impressed by OU's physical defense and overall team speed. PLUS they have the highest rated passer in the nation and a great running back core. Add Bob Stoops into the mix and I think they are a very solid football team. They blew a huge lead at Colorado then they lost to Texas Tech without their QB. They rebounded and toasted a very good Missouri team last night (at least offensively).

I don't like LSU for the main fact that they do get by on their rep and supposed "talent". That's great, but they struggled to beat some mediocre football teams including what I feel is a very overrated Arkansas at home in a "must-win" game.

I can't let OSU in cuz they lost to Illinois at home. I cant let WVU in cuz they lost to Pitt (lol really?) at home. Kansas still never beat anyone too impressive nor has Hawaii. I like UGA and VT but they'd be backdoor teams as well, only getting in cuz they lost earlier in the year rather than later.

just my 2 cents

[Sprayed]

Illinois is not a bad team. Spread offenses are OSU's worst nightmare. Take a look at Florida vs. OSU in the big dance. That's why I would like to see another SEC vs. Big Ten match-up. For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk. There was a lot more that went down last year in OSU's debacle against Florida. Long lay off, the players were partying, etc. Florida is good, but I don't think that Florida got a fair match-up and a true test from OSU. I know, excuses, excuses. Can't a brotha have his dream and second chance?

[bigspenda73]

OSU gets blown the $^%@ up by team-speed.

Why do we need to prove it to ourselves again and again? Let someone else have a chance.

[Lukie]

i love all the people saying that all these 2 loss teams should get in the title game ahead of OSU because they have man crushes on the SEC (I guess you could throw USC in there as well).

[Lukie]

OSU gets blown the $^%@ up by team-speed.

Why do we need to prove it to ourselves again and again? Let someone else have a chance.

yeah, it's so unfair, OSU wins too many games and gets into bowls they deserve to play in. It's unfair, give someone else a chance!!!

[bigspenda73]

OSU gets blown the $^%@ up by team-speed.

Why do we need to prove it to ourselves again and again? Let someone else have a chance.

yeah, it's so unfair, OSU wins too many games and gets into bowls they deserve to play in. It's unfair, give someone else a chance!!!

Yea so unfair having to watch your team get blown the fuck out by LSU/OU instead of getting to see a good game against two teams who actually beat someone throughout the year.

[WildBobAA]

For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk.

You seem to be judging both conferences by their best team. If you match up the best team from each conference, the second best teams from each conference, etc, the Big Ten might go 0-11.

[iolzizlyi]

lol you have the same man crush for OSU! and for the record i loathe USC. but they are definitely championship game worthy. i ultimately want to watch a really good game, preferably between the two BEST teams in the country. and the way i see it, OSU hasn't earned it any more than hawaii or boise state has. ohio state will not deliver. simple as that. which sucks because they are going regardless. and they will get owned yet again by whomever they play.

[Sprayed]

For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk.

You seem to be judging both conferences by their best team. If you match up the best team from each conference, the second best teams from each conference, etc, the Big Ten might go 0-11.

Since we are using last years results for this argument, take a look at the Big Ten vs. SEC results in last year's bowl games.

[iolzizlyi]

ok..

#7 wisconsin wins by a field goal over #14 arkansas...seems standard enough..

#24 penn state against #25 tennessee wins by ten. ok but i would have rooted for penn state since i hate tennessee.

and then the championship game which we know what happened.

even though big ten won the series, it looks pretty standard...all except the ohio state game. one more time: OVERRATED!

[EzDuzIt]

umm florida beat OSU last year. beat the hell out of them. and the SEC IS a monster. just compare schedules. 2 loss in the SEC is equivalent to any other team in the country going undefeated. big 10 has two teams: ohio state and michigan. sec has 12 good teams. i'm so sick of overrated ohio state. hawaii gets shafted based on strength of schedule. why does ohio state get so much respect?

Thats one game. 2 losses in the SEC is NOT the same as another team going undefeated lol. the big ten has mich, osu, wisconsin (beat 2 sec teams in a row in bowls that were suppose to have sooo much more speed lol), penn state, purdue some years, iowa some years, illinois has been very good this year.
SEC is the best conference buts its not by that huge of a margin.
why does OSU get so much respect?? lol not because they are always ranked really high and playing in BCS bowls winings national championsihps and shit lots of NFL players no big deal i mean theyre not an SEC schools so they have to suck.
the SEC has a lot of good football programs but there are a lot of schools from other conferences that have better programs than any SEC school.

[WildBobAA]

For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk.

You seem to be judging both conferences by their best team. If you match up the best team from each conference, the second best teams from each conference, etc, the Big Ten might go 0-11.

Since we are using last years results for this argument, take a look at the Big Ten vs. SEC results in last year's bowl games.

I'm talking about this season. Let's look at the matchups.

1. OSU vs LSU. LSU would be favored by a touchdown on a neutral field. SEC leads 1-0
2. Illinois vs Tennessee. Tennesee would probably be a 3 pt favorite but this one could go either way. I'm gonna call this a tie. SEC leads 1-0-1
3. Michigan vs Georgia. Michigan would get blown out. SEC leads 2-0-1
4. Wisconsin vs Florida. This would be a good game, too close to call really. I'd give the edge to Florida but I'm gonna call this one a tie. SEC leads 2-0-2
5. Penn State vs Auburn. I would expect Auburn to win this but this also could go either way. SEC leads 2-0-3
6. Arkansas vs Iowa. Arkansas would win this easily. SEC leads 3-0-3
7. Kentucky vs Indiana. lol SEC leads 4-0-3
8. Michigan State vs Mississippi State. I think Michigan State has the edge here, Big ten is on the board! SEC leads 4-1-3
9. Purdue vs Alabama. Both of these teams totally fell off at the end of the year. Another tie. SEC leads 4-1-4
10. Northwestern vs South Carolina. lmao SEC leads 5-1-4
11. Minnesota vs Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt would be about a 10 pt favorite. SEC wins 6-1-4

[iolzizlyi]

i agree there are schools with better programs. no doubt.

did you even answer my question as to why ohio state gets so much respect? all you said was that they play in lots of bowl games and are always ranked and output plenty of NFL players...oh yeah and thanks a lot for drew carter (carolina panthers) he's amazing...but so do pretty much all the other colleges.

and yeah, based on strength of schedule, 2 SEC losses is the same as ohio state going undefeated. every SEC team (with like two exceptions each year) at worst a good team. who is kent state anyways?? yeah sec is the best no doubt. what you didn't mention is the the big ten is NOT number two. or number three. i'd put them at 4.

[EzDuzIt]

kent state?

osu puts out a lot more NFL players then most schools. lol why shouldnt they get respect?? thats the real question. im not an osu fan btw.

i really dont know which conference is number 2. its between big10/big12/pac10 for me

[will641]

the pac 10? lol

and when do the new bcs standings come out?

[iolzizlyi]

the standings come out tonight after the second NFL game on fox. here are the predictions:

Rose Bowl presented by Citi
Jan. 1 / 4:30 p.m. Pasadena, Calif. ABC
*BCS vs. BCS (Big Ten Champion vs. Pac 10 Champion, if available)
Projection: USC vs. Illinois

Allstate Sugar Bowl
Jan. 1 / 8:30 p.m. New Orleans, La. FOX
*BCS vs. BCS (SEC Champion, if available)
Projection: Hawaii vs. Georgia

Tostitos Fiesta Bowl
Jan. 2 / 8 p.m. Phoenix, Ariz. FOX
*BCS vs. BCS (Big 12 Champion, if available)
Projection: Kansas vs. Oklahoma

FedEx Orange Bowl
Jan. 3 / 8 p.m. Miami, Fla. FOX
*BCS vs. BCS (ACC Champion, if available)
Projection: Virginia Tech vs. West Virginia

Allstate BCS National Championship
Jan. 7 / 8 p.m. New Orleans, La. FOX
*BCS #1 vs. BCS #2
Projection: Ohio State vs. LSU

[Sprayed]

ok..

#7 wisconsin wins by a field goal over #14 arkansas...seems standard enough..

#24 penn state against #25 tennessee wins by ten. ok but i would have rooted for penn state since i hate tennessee.

and then the championship game which we know what happened.

even though big ten won the series, it looks pretty standard...all except the ohio state game. one more time: OVERRATED!

Your reasoning makes no sense. You just put down the Big Ten by showing that they won the majority of the bowl games against SEC.

[Sprayed]

For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk.

You seem to be judging both conferences by their best team. If you match up the best team from each conference, the second best teams from each conference, etc, the Big Ten might go 0-11.

Since we are using last years results for this argument, take a look at the Big Ten vs. SEC results in last year's bowl games.

I'm talking about this season. Let's look at the matchups.

1. OSU vs LSU. LSU would be favored by a touchdown on a neutral field. SEC leads 1-0
2. Illinois vs Tennessee. Tennesee would probably be a 3 pt favorite but this one could go either way. I'm gonna call this a tie. SEC leads 1-0-1
3. Michigan vs Georgia. Michigan would get blown out. SEC leads 2-0-1
4. Wisconsin vs Florida. This would be a good game, too close to call really. I'd give the edge to Florida but I'm gonna call this one a tie. SEC leads 2-0-2
5. Penn State vs Auburn. I would expect Auburn to win this but this also could go either way. SEC leads 2-0-3
6. Arkansas vs Iowa. Arkansas would win this easily. SEC leads 3-0-3
7. Kentucky vs Indiana. lol SEC leads 4-0-3
8. Michigan State vs Mississippi State. I think Michigan State has the edge here, Big ten is on the board! SEC leads 4-1-3
9. Purdue vs Alabama. Both of these teams totally fell off at the end of the year. Another tie. SEC leads 4-1-4
10. Northwestern vs South Carolina. lmao SEC leads 5-1-4
11. Minnesota vs Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt would be about a 10 pt favorite. SEC wins 6-1-4

These games haven't happened yet or may never will. You can't justify your beliefs on something that has never existed. You believe that this will happen so this has to be true.

[Sprayed]

i agree there are schools with better programs. no doubt.

did you even answer my question as to why ohio state gets so much respect? all you said was that they play in lots of bowl games and are always ranked and output plenty of NFL players...oh yeah and thanks a lot for drew carter (carolina panthers) he's amazing...but so do pretty much all the other colleges.

and yeah, based on strength of schedule, 2 SEC losses is the same as ohio state going undefeated. every SEC team (with like two exceptions each year) at worst a good team. who is kent state anyways?? yeah sec is the best no doubt. what you didn't mention is the the big ten is NOT number two. or number three. i'd put them at 4.

I think that you should also take a look at where a large group of the coaches came from. Where did they get their start?

[bigspenda73]

omg no way Illinois deserves to be in a BCS bowl, no fucking way

[WildBobAA]

omg no way Illinois deserves to be in a BCS bowl, no fucking way

oh cmon, they will only be 20 pt dogs to USC!

[bikes]

WTH, the Illini in the Rose Bowl =(

If only Henne and Hart didn't get hurt

[EzDuzIt]

i actually think that would be a good game

[EzDuzIt]

WTH, the Illini in the Rose Bowl =(

If only Henne and Hart didn't get hurt

or if they would start the year out beating teams they should...

[bode]

OSU luckboxing their way in is sooooooo awesome. Hi five lukie, sprayed and swiggidy if your reading!

[Lukie]

OSU gets blown the $^%@ up by team-speed.

Why do we need to prove it to ourselves again and again? Let someone else have a chance.

yeah, it's so unfair, OSU wins too many games and gets into bowls they deserve to play in. It's unfair, give someone else a chance!!!

Yea so unfair having to watch your team get blown the fuck out by LSU/OU instead of getting to see a good game against two teams who actually beat someone throughout the year.

There is a system set up, and OSU is clearly the #1 team in the country based on that system. Do you just want to ignore it because you don't think they are worthy of that ranking??

Facts:

Last 6 seasons including this one, (2002-2007):

OSU has been in 6 bowls, including FIVE BCS bowls and soon to be THREE national championship games. They have a 4-1 bowl record in that stretch with a national title, and a national title game coming in January yet to be played. We've beaten Michigan 6 of the last 7 games including the last 4.

What's this about OSU not being able to beat good teams, or 'team speed' (obviously only the SEC has team speed)?

just admit that your anti-OSU bias clouds your judgement in a ridiculous way.
What's this about OSU not being able to beat good teams?

[Lukie]

OSU luckboxing their way in is sooooooo awesome. Hi five lukie, sprayed and swiggidy if your reading!

*zap*

[flomo]

college fb has become a WHO CARES thing for me this season
i'm pro tourney

hopefully some loser ass team becomes the champ this year, so more people are pissed off and want a tourney

good luck rainbows

[Sprayed]

This is for the Illinois fans.

[bigspenda73]

OSU gets blown the $^%@ up by team-speed.

Why do we need to prove it to ourselves again and again? Let someone else have a chance.

yeah, it's so unfair, OSU wins too many games and gets into bowls they deserve to play in. It's unfair, give someone else a chance!!!

Yea so unfair having to watch your team get blown the fuck out by LSU/OU instead of getting to see a good game against two teams who actually beat someone throughout the year.

There is a system set up, and OSU is clearly the #1 team in the country based on that system. Do you just want to ignore it because you don't think they are worthy of that ranking??

Facts:

Last 6 seasons including this one, (2002-2007):

OSU has been in 6 bowls, including FIVE BCS bowls and soon to be THREE national championship games. They have a 4-1 bowl record in that stretch with a national title, and a national title game coming in January yet to be played. We've beaten Michigan 6 of the last 7 games including the last 4.

What's this about OSU not being able to beat good teams, or 'team speed' (obviously only the SEC has team speed)?

just admit that your anti-OSU bias clouds your judgement in a ridiculous way.
What's this about OSU not being able to beat good teams?

First of all I grew up being an OSU fan b/c my uncle is a professor there. Secondly, I hate the SEC and think the conference as a whole is overrated however the Big Ten is always grossly overrated that's why your team keeps getting to the national championship game.

How about this stat Lukie, OSU is 0-8 vs SEC (yes teams with speed) in bowl games. What say you to that?
I think OU got a horrible deal, you beat the #1 team in the nation BY 18 POINTS and you don't get in, that to me is teh suck.

[mcatdog]

Last year's national championship game proved once and for all that the Big Ten is awful and the SEC is the best. One game is all it takes to be able to say that, since there's absolutely no variance in football, as was proven by how few upsets there were this season.

[WildBobAA]

Missouri got screwed. They beat Illinois and Kansas and both of those teams get BCS bids over Mizzou. It's almost like they rewarded Kansas for losing to Mizzouri.

[bigspenda73]

WHAT THE FUCK ILLINOIS?

HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY IN A BCS BOWL? THAT IS THE BIGGESET FUCKING JOKE I'VE EVER WITNESSED, THEY'RE IN AHEAD OF A 2 LOSS MISSOURI TEAM THAT BEAT THEM.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FUCKING JOKING.

[kingnat]

Missouri got screwed. They beat Illinois and Kansas and both of those teams get BCS bids over Mizzou. It's almost like they rewarded Kansas for losing to Mizzouri.

Agreed... there are rules against more than 2 teams from the same conference therefore it is CLEAR that KU should go to the Cotton and MU should be playing VT... KU is going to get f'ing destroyed.

[bigspenda73]

KU is a solid good team, they won't get destroyed, but they also aren't going to light anyone up.

I think a lot of these games are just going to be meh.

[vqc]

I wished we coulda seen the USC v. LSU game. That would've at least answered all the preseason hype and smack talk.

I hope OSU blows the bejeezus out of LSU, and USC pwns Illinois.

[a500lbgorilla]

KU is a solid good team, they won't get destroyed, but they also aren't going to light anyone up.

I think a lot of these games are just going to be meh.

VT vrs KU is lame.

[EzDuzIt]

usc illinois will be a good game.

it sucks that OSU has to wait 51 days again before they play.

[bode]

Last year's national championship game proved once and for all that the Big Ten is awful and the SEC is the best. One game is all it takes to be able to say that, since there's absolutely no variance in football, as was proven by how few upsets there were this season.

lol?

[iolzizlyi]

i've missed a lot being at work.. ok so like i fucking said big ten won the series against the SEC last year!! who gives a fuck?! i'm talking about year after year the SEC is way better. imagine if any big ten team had to play the same teams any SEC team does. they would be at least two loss also. dude seriously i'm fucking sick of this. look at ohio state's schedule. i haven't calculated it but i promise the combined win loss standing of all the teams OSU has played is outrageously under .500. for them to be in the championship game is fucking gross. esp since they don't even HAVE a championship game in the big ten. GET A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!

oh and mad props to spenda who is as real as i am. he states that he doesn't like the SEC and is semi-biased toward OSU but STILL realizes that the big ten sucks way harder than SEC.

USC illinois is a joke and i'll leave it at that. anyone that thinks this will be a "good game" is crazy as hell.

and quite honestly OSU is lucky to be against a struggling LSU team. because anybody else would blow them out of the fucking water. and even LSU might do just that. and i hope LSU kicks some columbus ass just like florida did. and i don't care who wins the majority of the games big ten vs. SEC. because you can ask any fucking sports analyst which conference is more difficult to play in year after year and he/she will say SEC every single time.

[mcatdog]

OSU's schedule
Youngstown State 7-4
Akron 4-8
at Washington 4-9
Northwestern 6-6
at Minnesota 1-11
at Purdue 7-5
Kent State 3-9
Michigan State 7-5
at Penn State 8-4
Wisconsin 9-3
Illinois 9-3
at Michigan 8-4
TOTAL 73-71

If their schedule was so terrible, then explain why the BCS computer rankings, which are mainly based on strength of schedule, have them ahead of everyone except LSU and Virginia Tech.

ok so like i fucking said big ten won the series against the SEC last year!! who gives a fuck?!

Most of the SEC advocates do. All I keep hearing is 41-14 as if one game in one season makes their entire conference better forever and for all time.

i'm talking about year after year the SEC is way better.

If year after year means last year and this year, then yes. Two years ago the SEC sucked and the Big 10 was the best. Things change from year to year obviously. But in the long run all of the BCS conferences are about equal, except for the Big East and even they will probably catch up sooner or later.

[iolzizlyi]

if those standings are correct, i will admit that their combined opps. records is a bit better than i expected but only slightly. but until they play a ranked team they do not qualify for any championship in my eyes. isn't that the point of the regular season? to prove yourself? 80% of the country (non poll-members) don't believe OSU is the best team in the country right now. nor do i. and trust me i'm not an SEC advocate even though we are the toughest conference in football. i want UGA to go to the big game and i want all the other SEC teams to lose to us. but i do not think that year in and year out any other conference has as tough a schedule as we do.

and no one game doesn't prove anything. but it does prove that, just perhaps ohio state was just a wee bit overrated last season? maybe? i mean #1 vs. #2 should be a good close physical game right? i mean michigan gave them all they handle. and USC beat them. so could USC have beaten OSU? for that matter could USC have beaten florida? basically, and i know i've been ranting about OSU, is that i'm saying this BCS thing SUCKS. if 80% of the US wants a playoff system why not? just a six seed where 1 and 2 get a bye. nobody beyond number 6 has not deserved a shot since the BCS got started imo. but this year just like every other year, there are several teams that could be contenders for the title.

anyways response 3 yeah everything changes year to year. that is college football for you. but i definitely don't think that the BCS conferences are all equal. that's crazy.

[Lukie]

sec fanboys, *sigh*

[EzDuzIt]

USC illinois is a joke and i'll leave it at that. anyone that thinks this will be a "good game" is crazy as hell.

lol, illinois did beat #1 ohio state at osu, and wisconsin. so they beat the team in the national championship game its just fuckin crazy to think that they could even give the great USC trojans a game though huh?

quit bashing big ten teams for no reason.

OSU has a wayyyyyyy better football program than Georgia. but im sure you will come up with some ridiculous argument for that too.

[iolzizlyi]

"sec fanboys"...whatever dude. i'm a georgia fan not an SEC fan. i hate every team in the SEC besides georgia. by the way, we would kill OSU. and so would USC and so would oklahoma, and probably kansas.

anyways i'm not arguing about this crap anymore. doesn't matter anyways. the title game will play soon enough and we'll see if OSU deserved this or not.

EDIT
just saw the prev post. perhaps illinois is proof that OSU isn't all it's cracked up to be? as i mentioned earlier i hate USC. i root against them pretty much all the time. but aren't they playing the best football in the country right now?

oh yeah and i completely agree that OSU has a better football program that UGA. who wouldn't wanna go to a team with such prestige? i mean come on they're automatically ranked like all the time. even in a rebuilding year. hey i wish you guys the best of luck. cuz you'll need it.

[vqc]

as i mentioned earlier i hate USC. i root against them pretty much all the time. but aren't they playing the best football in the country right now?

yes, yes they are.

After finals are over, I will come up with the greatest CFB playoff system that INVOLVES BOWL GAMES!

[WildBobAA]

I hope iolzizlyi and Chopper get into an argument about college football.

[WildBobAA]

and no one game doesn't prove anything. but it does prove that, just perhaps ohio state was just a wee bit overrated last season? maybe? i mean #1 vs. #2 should be a good close physical game right? i mean michigan gave them all they handle. and USC beat them. so could USC have beaten OSU? for that matter could USC have beaten florida?

You can't use this Team A beat Team B, Team B beat Team C, so Team A > Team C logic in football, it just doesn't work at all so just stop.

Also, one game proves abosofuckinglutely nothing. It doesn't prove OSU was overrated, it doesn't prove that Florida was a better team, it proves fucking nothing. This is a poker forum for crying out loud, all of you should be able to realize how much variation exists in everything in life, including football. Maybe OSU was 60% to win that game, then again maybe Florida 75% to win that game. The point is, you DON'T FUCKING KNOW based on the results of that one game. My Aces just lost to Kings, I guess that proves Aces are overrated.

[mcatdog]

If their schedule was so terrible, then explain why the BCS computer rankings, which are mainly based on strength of schedule, have them ahead of everyone except LSU and Virginia Tech.

iolzizlyi, answer this question please. What evidence do you have for thinking USC, Oklahoma, Georgia, and Kansas would all "kill" Ohio State?