*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

[OngBonga]

This "hungry children" is the latest Tory-hating virtue singnalling crap doing the rounds. There's nothing that tugs on the heart strings more than a hungry child.

A 2+2 family on Universal Credit (benefits) gets around £1100 a month, before their rent and council tax. There is no reason children should be hungry in this country. If a child is hungry, perhaps instead of asking what Boris is going to do about it, we should ask what the parents are doing with their benefits. My guess is special brew for Dad, wine for Mom, 20 ciggies a day, and scratchcards.

The last two weeks of the month are usually pretty tight for me, like £50 a week budget for food and baccy. More pasta less maccies.

[Poopadoop]

This "hungry children" is the latest Tory-hating virtue singnalling crap doing the rounds. There's nothing that tugs on the heart strings more than a hungry child.

A 2+2 family on Universal Credit (benefits) gets around £1100 a month, before their rent and council tax. There is no reason children should be hungry in this country. If a child is hungry, perhaps instead of asking what Boris is going to do about it, we should ask what the parents are doing with their benefits. My guess is special brew for Dad, wine for Mom, 20 ciggies a day, and scratchcards.

The last two weeks of the month are usually pretty tight for me, like £50 a week budget for food and baccy. More pasta less maccies.

The problem with your argument is the kids don't get to choose their parents - so unless the gov't can prove that the parents are using the kids' meal vouchers to barter for crack as one of the Tory MPs suggests, it's completely irrelevant to most decent people what the parents are like if the kids are going hungry. If some of them are so irresponsible they won't properly feed their kids, that's not a good reason to let those kids go hungry.

And if the parents are refusing to feed their kids because they spend all their money on booze and crack, the kids should be taken away from them and found a better home.

Doubtless a few mill out of the £12b spent on giving Dido "my husband is head of ethics so I can't be touched" Harding a plum job running TTI that doesn't work, with "consultants" earning £7k/day, and whatever other projects are being given to party donors, could more sensibly be used to feed hungry children rather than fatten rich party cronies.

[oskar]

This "hungry children" is the latest Tory-hating virtue singnalling crap doing the rounds. There's nothing that tugs on the heart strings more than a hungry child.

Do you ever read back what you just wrote and think: wow, that kinda sounds bad?

[Poopadoop]

Do you ever read back what you just wrote and think: wow, that kinda sounds bad?

Given that he fails to see the hypocrisy of accepting gov't handouts himself while thinking gov't money shouldn't also be spent on feeding children, I'm guessing the answer to this will be a resounding "No," or possibly "No, #MEGA."

[OngBonga]

Given that he fails to see the hypocrisy of accepting gov't handouts himself while thinking gov't money shouldn't also be spent on feeding children, I'm guessing the answer to this will be a resounding "No," or possibly "No, #MEGA."

There's no hypocrisy. You just like to think there is. I never suggested that the govt shouldn't feed children. I pointed out they already try to, and that if children are hungry, then it's the fault of the parents, not the govt.

Ultimately, it is the job of the parents to feed their children. If they won't do it, then of course the govt has to step in. But that shouldn't just involve free meals, that should also involve a social worker. If the govt are just handing out vouchers without condition, that results in bad parents becoming even more dependent on the govt than they already were.

I'm just going to point out that I came from a poor family, I went hungry at times. I can remember as a child sneaking out of class, finding the button for the bell, and ringing it because I was so hungry and wanted lunch. It upset some of the teachers. I had shit parents (Dad & Stepmom). I had a social worker too, and eventually was taken into care. And that's a lot less fun than being hungry. I can also remember phone calls to my Mom, crying, begging her to let me come and live with her. That's more painful than hunger, believe me.

So if anyone thinks I'm lacking in empathy, you couldn't be more wrong. I just don't blame the govt for parents doing a terrible job. I blame the parents. And parents will continue to do a shit job if the govt keep enabling them.

It's not an easy problem for the govt to solve. Throwing money around isn't the solution to bad parenting.

[OngBonga]

Ong, you seem to have this notion that since you don't feel oppressed, there is no oppression where you live.

This has nothing to do with oppression. A child who has terrible parents is not oppressed by the govt.

[MadMojoMonkey]

This has nothing to do with oppression. A child who has terrible parents is not oppressed by the govt.

You cut my question and responded to a non-sequitur.

Try again, man.

[OngBonga]

You cut my question and responded to a non-sequitur.

Try again, man.

This isn't about "should" vs "is". It's about assigning the blame to the correct people. When people like poop blame Boris for a hungry child, the parents are getting cut slack for the sake of politics. Feeding children is not the job of government.

[Poopadoop]

This isn't about "should" vs "is". It's about assigning the blame to the correct people. When people like poop blame Boris for a hungry child, the parents are getting cut slack for the sake of politics. Feeding children is not the job of government.

If feeding people such as you is the job of the government, and I would say it is, then feeding children certainly should be too.

You can disagree with the concept of the welfare state but that's the state we live in. And when it fails to provide sustenance to its own hungry children when doing so would be well within its capabilities, I am not alone in saying it's got its priorities wrong.

(And btw, it's not virtue signalling if you actually believe what you are saying. That's just a convenient Tory excuse for the backlash they've been facing over their miserliness, including from many within their own party.)

[Poopadoop]

Speaking of virtue signalling, check out Cruela DeVille here talking about drowning refugees she said should be sent to a desolate island for "processing."

#MEGA

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