*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

[OngBonga]

I really can't believe you're this stupid.

It's a one-party system because no matter how we vote, it's the same policy, the same ideology.

There is only one party... the EU party. The MEPs are members of this party. They might be Tories or Labour in the UK, they might be whatever in France, but the EU is a political union, which means they are united in the same political objective. They share a central government. That government is the EU, and will always be the EU, no matter how the people of Europe vote. You can't vote them out like you can vote out the Tories.

[CoccoBill]

I really can't believe you're this stupid.

It's a one-party system because no matter how we vote, it's the same policy, the same ideology.

There is only one party... the EU party. The MEPs are members of this party. They might be Tories or Labour in the UK, they might be whatever in France, but the EU is a political union, which means they are united in the same political objective. They share a central government. That government is the EU, and will always be the EU, no matter how the people of Europe vote. You can't vote them out like you can vote out the Tories.

You might wanna read up a bit:
https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...er%20countries.

[Poopadoop]

You might wanna read up a bit:

Ong? Read up?

[OngBonga]

You might wanna read up a bit:
https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...er%20countries.

Thanks for this.

"governments defend their own country's national interests in the Council of the European Union."
"The European Council sets the EU's overall political direction – but has no powers to pass laws."

So this is very much different to voting in a party that has the power to pass laws, assuming they have a parliamentary majority (or cross party support). The Council do not pass laws, they merely propose them. The laws need to be passed by the Commission and the Parliament.

Also, the Court of Justice is a problem. Courts are sup[posed to be independent of the government. That is (mostly) the case here, with notable exceptions (Julian Assange).

If you're trying to demonstrate that the EU is an form of acceptable democracy, you've failed.

[CoccoBill]

If you're trying to demonstrate that the EU is an form of acceptable democracy, you've failed.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Me? No, I'm merely demonstrating there's no "EU party" in any sense of the word, the MEPs who comprise the EU Parliament are not "united in the same political objective", and the EU "government" acts in a very similar fashion as the federal government in the US. There are federal laws which in theory override local policies, but those are often contended. The majority of the power remains with the states, who have their own legislation.

[OngBonga]

and the EU "government" acts in a very similar fashion as the federal government in the US.

Is it ok for me to reject an American-style federal system?