Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post

If you complain about this country and the democratic decisions we make, and someone asks "why do you stay here then", that is not an invitation to fuck off. That is a legitimate question. I've said multiple times I would not want to stay in a country if I held that country and their people in contempt.
You're doing the very thing you're accusing me of here. I've said myself several times I do not hold the UK or its people in contempt.



Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
It is not unreasonable for natives to expect migrants to respect our democratic decisions. And it's not unreasonable for you to be reminded you have more choice than I do about where you live. I assume you have a vote. You have exactly the same amount of say as I do. If I vote for the loser, I accept and respect it. That's a core value of democracy. If you don't like democracy, you're in the wrong country. If you do like democracy, you have a very funny way of showing it.
First, I've never told you to go anywhere except back to Anglony Saxony land.

Second, it's universally accepted that it's a dogwhistle to point out that someone is not native to your country in any context where you are discussing the country itself. We've told you this before. Whether you claim to personally actually mean anything by it or not is irrelevant, you just don't do it.

Third, you don't get to make the rules. Liking and respecting democracy does not mean accepting everything that happens in a democracy, no matter how underhanded the tactics were to make it happen, or how bad an idea it is, because people voted for it. Voters come in all varieties. Many of them are stupid. Many are uninformed, and many are susceptible to being manipulated, and en masse they make objectively bad choices very often. I can't help that, and I sure as hell don't have to align my thinking with how the masses vote on anything.

You're trying to pull this old argument out of your ass again that I am somehow "undermining" democracy by listing the ways in which the thing a majority of people voted for is bad. That's got nothing to do with democracy. An idea doesn't become "good" or "right" because a bunch of people voted for it. I don't let the masses tell me what to believe, and I don't forfeit my right to criticise their judgment because I live in a democracy.