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 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Yes, the UK has plenty to be ashamed of. Nice "whataboutism" there from you there poop.
If British MPs voted in secret so nobody knew who voted on certain issues, there would rightly be outrage, and certainly poop would have plenty to say about it. I would too. But when it's your beloved EU, you're more interested in pointing to UK arms deals with Saudi Arabia, which incidentally is very much something I oppose and a significant reason why I can't vote for the Tories.
The EU should be deeply ashamed of their support for the Spanish govt in the Catalonia issue. I'm in absolutely no doubt that if the UK govt suppressed Scottish independence in the same way, you would be telling us how terrible it is, instead of pointing fingers elsewhere.
There's a lot of "ifs" and "thens" in there, not a lot of acknowledging that Catalan independence is perhaps not as an important issue to the UK as the debasement of democracy in the UK itself.
Your argument seems to be "EU bad at democracy so we shouldn't be in it." And yes, certainly they could do better on many things. But claiming they aren't meeting your standards for democracy seems pretty weak considering the party that runs your own country got well under half the popular vote and is undermining democracy itself on a regular basis.
A few pages ago you were talking about how important fishermens' livelihoods were to you. Do they not concern you anymore? Just wondering why you don't have anything to say about them since Brexit happened.
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