*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

[Poopadoop]

You do realize that the MEPs are exactly the representatives of the EU members, aka the EU, and that the MEPs are voted in.

The UK population never took MEPs seriously, they just voted in dickheads like Farage to go in and make asses of themselves. Then they complained about being run by unelected bureaucrats. Hurr durr, wave flag, cogito ergo sum, etc.

[CoccoBill]

The UK population never took MEPs seriously, they just voted in dickheads like Farage to go in and make asses of themselves. Then they complained about being run by unelected bureaucrats. Hurr durr, wave flag, cogito ergo sum, etc.

That's much the same here, no one cares about the EU elections, and the MEPs are just thought to want to go there for the tax free income. Of course for a small country they have fuck all power there, but would think the MEPs from the larger members (tee hee) would have quite a bit more sway.

[OngBonga]

But claiming they aren't meeting your standards for democracy seems pretty weak considering the party that runs your own country got well under half the popular vote and is undermining democracy itself on a regular basis.

This is fair. I've said multiple times that British democracy is far from ideal. I would certainly like to see some kind of reform. However, British democracy is far superior to EU democracy because we hold regular elections that have a direct effect on who is in government.

A few pages ago you were talking about how important fishermens' livelihoods were to you. Do they not concern you anymore? Just wondering why you don't have anything to say about them since Brexit happened.

I addressed this a few pages ago. I said let's have this discussion in five years. The transition is obviously going to be a bumpy ride, I never pretended otherwise. Nobody with half a brain expected things to suddenly be better the instant we left, that's tripe being promoted by remainers who just want something to argue about, something to point at and go "look".

Our fishing industry has been in decline for decades. It doesn't recover immediately. It takes time and investment. So, let's discuss this in a few years when we can see if positive change is actually happening. Right now it's a pointless discussion.

[Poopadoop]

British democracy is far superior to EU democracy because we hold regular elections that have a direct effect on who is in government.

smh.

I said let's have this discussion in five years. The transition is obviously going to be a bumpy ride, I never pretended otherwise. Nobody with half a brain expected things to suddenly be better the instant we left, that's tripe being promoted by remainers who just want something to argue about, something to point at and go "look".

Our fishing industry has been in decline for decades. It doesn't recover immediately. It takes time and investment. So, let's discuss this in a few years when we can see if positive change is actually happening. Right now it's a pointless discussion.

Brexit was supposed to be the saviour of the declining fishing industry. Instead the opposite has happened because we can no longer sell our fish to the EU. These aren't "teething problems", they're a fundamental result of leaving. We're now a third party and we have to follow third party rules. The EU is a protectionist trade bloc. We've chosen to leave it. They're not going to start doing us any favours, even if they legally could. Especially not when we keep threatening to fuck them around over Ireland.

In five years, we can have this discussion if you want, but things won't magically get any better - there's no Brexit unicorn that can carry our fish to overseas markets. And while those five years tick off a lot of fishermen are going to go broke.