*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

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NATO does nothing to solve current geopolitical tensions. It doesn't even stop Russia from being aggressive,

Maybe. Or maybe it's the only reason Putin hasn't already ridden into Kiev dancing on a tank. Have you thought of that?

nor does it stop the West from being aggressive.

It's a defensive pact. So if one member gets attacked, the rest go to it's aid. If one member wants to invade a non-NATO country, that's not its business. That's what the UN is supposed to be for. Not saying the UN is any good at that, but if the UN can't stop wars when that's its purpose, how do you expect NATO to when that's not its purpose?

I was always in favour of a purely economic relationship, but the EU is not just an economic union. Staying in the single market while leaving the union would have been perfect, but it seems it was naive to think this was ever going to happen.

Switzerland managed to do it, don't see why we couldn't. Unless it's something to do with years of anti-EU propaganda feeding paranoia and leading people to elect nationalistic MPs (cough) ERG (cough).

And the Guardian, and all the other left wing rags. This isn't exclusive to right wing media. There's stupid people on all sides of the political divide, and these media all seek to exploit these people.

The tone in the Guardian is completely different than the tone in the Mail. There's no hysteria in the former. Sure, they have a leftward bias, but they're not just making shit up. The Guardian is more like the Times in that respect. I don't know of any lefty papers that go off the deep end the way the far-right media does.

the right think the left are woke idiots.

Being aware of the issues that affect people outside of oneself is pretty much the opposite of being an idiot. That's like saying you're woke about physics.

I had a friend on facebook who couldn't believe I would vote Brexit but at the same time demonstrate anti-Tory views.

But you're anti-authority in general, so any gov't is bad to you. I don't see an inconsistency there.

Like I say, there's stupid people on all sides. We're sheep.

Some of us are a bit better at critical thinking than others though.

Don't be so naive to think you're not brainwashed either. We all are to a degree.

It's the bolded that separates the smart ones from the dumb ones though.