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Maybe. Or maybe it's the only reason Putin hasn't already ridden into Kiev dancing on a tank. Have you thought of that?
I would suggest this is that brainwashing that you're potentially subject to. I mean, I don't know what goes on in Putin's head. I don't know if he wants to invade the world. But I very much doubt it. They don't speak Russian in Kiev. It's not Crimea, it's not Donetsk. Very, very different. The people of Kiev don't want to be Russian.
It's an anti-Russian pact.
Switzerland managed to do it, don't see why we couldn't.
The Nordic nations do it too. But they were never members in the first place. It's like staying friends with your ex wife. Sure, anti-EU rhetoric doesn't help. Neither does their anti-UK rhetoric. But we should both be mature enough to basically ignore that. Neither of us are.
The tone in the Guardian is completely different than the tone in the Mail.
Yes it is. That doesn't mean they're not feeding stupid people. It means they're better at pretending they're not feeding stupid people.
...but they're not just making shit up.
Sure they are, they're media.
Being aware of the issues that affect people outside of oneself is pretty much the opposite of being an idiot.
lol what a woke thing to say. It's that air of moral superiority that nails it.
It's not just about being "aware", it's also about harshly judging other people for not thinking along the same lines.
But you're anti-authority in general, so any gov't is bad to you. I don't see an inconsistency there.
True, but I also understand authority is necessary for a stable society. It's not like I want anarchy, though the reason for that is because I don't trust other people, rather than a ideological problem with anarchy.
I'm anti-Tory and anti-Labour. I tend to lean Tory purely because of economics. But they're both fucking awful political parties.
Some of us are a bit better at critical thinking than others though.
Yeah but you're a bit ore selective about how you apply your critical thinking. I'm perhaps too paranoid.
I mean, you're telling me the Guardian don't make shit up. You're not applying critical thinking when it comes to left wing media. Seems selective.
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