I've certainly never said that being unvaccinated is equivalent to being infectious. I don't recall poopy saying that either, but he can talk for himself. I hear he turned into a big kid some time ago.

If we were talking about an illness that like turned your nose bright pink during the entire time you were infectious, and then it went back to normal when you were not longer infectious, then my opinions on mandatory vaccines would be dramatically different.

The reality is that the range of COVID symptoms varies wildly, with a significant %age of people reporting no symptoms at all and yet testing positive for COVID antibodies in their system. So they had no freaking idea when they were infected or infectious, and no one else around them knew either. That really complicates things. There's no clear sign.


Also, we're talking about a new disease that went from newly discovered to worldwide pandemic in a matter of months. So many millions of people have died to COVID in the past 2 years. It's not like a cold or getting a little pukey flu for a day that you fully expect to fully recover from. It kills.

Reputable medical doctors never claimed that taking the vaccine would mean that you definitely would not get or transmit Sars-CoV-2 virus. They only claimed that getting the vaccine would dramatically reduce those chances. Then when cases started coming in of vaccinated patients with COVID, they studied the severity of symptoms and showed that vaccinated patients suffer fewer and lesser symptoms for a shorter period than non-vaccinated patients. That was never a guarantee, but it is great news.


We don't know the long-term effects of the vaccines. That's fair.
We also don't know the long-term effects of COVID infection, but we have evidence that it can be severely bad for some people already.


Working without complete knowledge is our only option. You're a poker player. You glean all the information you can around the unknown, and you make your best guess and do something about it. EZ.