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    Well I don't know what did or didn't get to Starmer, and quite frankly I find it absurd to believe anything the state has to say about the matter, since the state is implicated in this whole affair. Savile was friends with the Royal Family and former Prime Ministers, some of whom have also been accused of horrific crimes. Ted Heath, Prince Andrew, these are hugely powerful and unpleasant people. Who knows how deep this all goes?

    I don't think Starmer is to blame. This is way higher than him. Did Starmer keep his mouth shut for the good of his career and health? Maybe, but if that's true then so did a lot of other people, and I mean a lot.

    The fault with Savile is the police didn't follow up on him
    This isn't the fault of regular investigating cops. The fault lies with this who make decisions. Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to identifying who made the decisions. Someone, somewhere made the decision to not investigate Savile. That wasn't incompetence, it was to protect him. He was untouchable. This is what Starmer must have known.
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    ^^ There's a lot of speculation here and not a lot of facts. All we know is a famous guy got accused of perving on kids and the investigation never got off the ground until he died. There's a lot of people at the bottom of the chain that didn't seem to be doing their job, but for some reason you assume it's because someone way up said to let him go.

    Maybe the cop and prosecutors at the front end of this thing had a soft spot for the guy. Maybe they grew up watching him on TV, and thought he was a great guy who couldn't possibly hurt anyone. Maybe they had some unhealthy deference for his celebrity status. Maybe he was good at lying. Maybe they didn't think they had enough evidence. Maybe it was some combination of those things. Who knows? But, these seem like more parsimonious explanations for why he wasn't pursued than the whole conspiracy theory thing you seem to be running with.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    This is what Starmer must have known.
    There's no evidence he knew anything. You're basically doing a Boris here, assuming guilt by association.

    At least you seem to understand it wasn't his decision not to prosecute.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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