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[MadMojoMonkey]

30 mph winds will rearrange your outdoor furniture. That's about as strong as they get in St Louis. Occasional gusts above that, but nothing sustained. I can't really imagine 100 mph winds. Like looking out the window and seeing some bit of garbage casually whipping past as fast as an MLB pitcher's fast ball. I don't even think I want windows at that point.

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Almost every ranch in the US is going to have clearly delineated, fenced borders. Any roads will go around the ranch / between separately fenced fields. The rancher's animals do not leave the fence unless something is broken, which is a hassle for the rancher, or the rancher is moving the herd.

Likewise, if you trespass into that rancher's fields, they will probably not like that. Even if you're just passing through, if your presence even remotely spooks their livestock, they'll have words. They're within their rights to call the police to have you arrested for trespassing. The police may just tell you not to do that again, instead of arresting you, though.


The notion of livestock on public land in the US doesn't feel right to me. Like... if just 1 animal injures just 1 person, there's gonna be a lawsuit, and insurance claims, and that shit is expensive, so the whole "livestock near idiots who do not know how to behave around animals" thing would have to get shut down.

[Poopadoop]

Almost every ranch in the US is going to have clearly delineated, fenced borders.

Yeah I don't think there is anything like a commons in Canada either. Maybe an arrangement where two or three neighbouring ranchers share access to each other's land if they're raising different kinds of animals, but nothing where any old person can just go and take his livestock to graze.

[OngBonga]

There was a farmer who shot dead two burglars as they tried to flee from his house. He went through legal hell before finally being cleared. The fact they were trying to flee made it a very complex case, and it dragged on for years, seriously affecting the mental health of the farmer. He was hailed a hero by a large number of people who feel that homeowners should have the right to defend their property against thieves. I happen to agree. If you are a burglar, it's a risky career choice and you take the consequences when they come, whether that be jail or a shotgun wound.

[OngBonga]

This current storms seems exceptional, it doesn't seem like it to me but I think we largely missed it here. It was certainly very windy today, with trees uprooted locally, but there's no damage to our property that I'm aware of. If it was coming from the east I'd be a lot more concerned, we're exposed in that direction. This storm is probably a once-a-decade storm, while the one we had two days ago was a three-times-a-year storm.