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[MadMojoMonkey]

I'm not really arguing and I'm not interested in winning.

Languages are living, evolving things. Words' meanings change over time.

You can not like that the word "literally" means the opposite of what it did 30 years ago, but it doesn't change the fact that people just started using it differently, and that's the definition, now.


You kinda made my point. Words have agreed-upon meanings. That's a cooperative event, agreeing. You simply have to cooperate to communicate. If the person you're talking to isn't cooperating, then that's not on you. If they're actually trying to tell you something, though, and you simply refuse to listen because you're hung up on a book that isn't relevant to the conversation, then the lack of cooperation falls on you.

Dictionaries exist to tell us how words have been used in the past, nothing more. That is why they exist. People do get to make up words on a whim. Shakespeare did it often, and many of those words remain in the lexicon of our language. The word cyborg didn't exist in my dad's old dictionary. Now it does in most dictionaries.

Your position, here, is truly baffling.

[Poopadoop]

Did anyone read Bodger's Daily Mail column on how he can't lose weight? Me neither.

I do think it's funny though that he's already been fired from two journo gigs for lying, got kicked out of parliament for lying, and now the DM is paying him six figures to write a column for them. That's a classy paper for sure.

[OngBonga]

I mean poop's claim "words have definitive meaning" is clearly nonsense. We're talking about a court here. What type of court? A court isn't just a place where justice happens. It's also a place where people play tennis. Court can also mean to romance, as a verb.

But poop probably should just pick one definition and stop using the word for other uses. Because words have meaning.

[OngBonga]

Basically, kangaroo court is a term somebody used once to describe what he felt was a sham of justice and and it caught on. It's used today by people who don't wish to recognise the authority of a court. That could be for many reasons, subjective reasons, where one person might say "yes I agree that's a sham of justice" and another might say "I think it's perfectly just" and we have a fucking debate about whether a court is a kangaroo court and it's a debate nobody wins because there's actually no such thing as a kangaroo court other than in baseball.

[Poopadoop]

lol, you picked up the Wiki definition like that couldn't have been written by anybody, then tried to pick it apart and/or "debunk" it (at least I presume that's what you were doing, I didn't actually bother to read your ramblings). You might as well what quote your neighbor the cat lady says a kangaroo court is.

The amount of energy you two are expending on doubling down and all this stuff about words being ambiguous, when you were clearly using it wrongly in the first place is hilarious. And not only were you using the term incorrectly, but the way you were using it made no sense either. Even if we accept you, Ong, alone in the world, believed and meant that they were calling it a kangaroo court because they thought it was toothless, it obviously wasn't toothless because it kicked him out of parliament.

Bodger Johnson and his mates: This is a kangaroo court! Pwaaah!

Ong translation: They're saying the parliamentary committee has no power.

Me: No, that's not what they're saying. They're saying his guilt was pre-determined and the PC was a sham.

Ong: No, they're saying it has no power. I do what I want with words.

Me: Here, look at a dictionary. It doesn't mean what you think it means.


The PC: Bodger, you're hereby suspended from parliament for 90 days. Also hand in your pass, you lying fuck, your career is over.

Proving the PC does, in fact, have power. Which everyone who knows anything about PCs already knew and so no-one, certainly not someone who'd spent time in parliament, would try to claim it doesn't by calling it a "kangaroo court."

Ong: I'm doubling down, words are subjective blah blah blah. I can make a word mean anything I want.

Me: No, actually you can't. Words mean what they mean. You may have thought it meant something other than it does, but the word itself still means what it means.

Mojo: Words can change and mean different things. Stop being mean to Ong by correcting his made-up vocabulary.

Me: He was using it incorrectly, I just pointed it out to him.

Mojo: But you're still a big meany to my friend.

Me: Fine, I'm sorry for being a big meany. But I'm still right.

Ong: Blah blah blah three posts about a wiki citation - look, I analysed each individual word, ergo I have a point.

Me: Whatever...

[Poopadoop]

Ong, all you have to do to win this argument is show me a legitimate source that defines a kangaroo court as one with no power. I'll give you the rest of the weekend to find one.