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[Poopadoop]

All stupid people think that they can do those things well.

How would you know? This isn't about finding a pattern in some shapes.

[Savy]

How would you know? This isn't about finding a pattern in some shapes.

If people aren't shapes then why are you so obtuse?

#mathsburns

[Poopadoop]

If people aren't shapes then why are you so obtuse?

#mathsburns

If you assume one thing you're good at can be applied to everything, then you're mistaken about the concept of intelligence.

People aren't shapes. If you can't tell the difference then that explains the diff. between yours and a more rounded intellect.

[Savy]

If you assume one thing you're good at can be applied to everything, then you're mistaken about the concept of intelligence.

People aren't shapes. If you can't tell the difference then that explains the diff. between yours and a more rounded intellect.

I don't know why you feel so intimidated by me that you keep trying to slag off my intelligence in some way, shape (pun, see linguistic intelligence) or form. I'm sure you would have solved the puzzle too given a bit more time.

I give you guys my worst.

The classes I did the best in (by a lot) were the ones where we dissected and explained literature and created our own literature.

I'm fairly good at dissecting and analysing literature but my vocab is very basic compared to other well educated people. I should work on it but probably never will.

[wufwugy]

I'm fairly good at dissecting and analysing literature but my vocab is very basic compared to other well educated people. I should work on it but probably never will.

Do you read, write, or talk less than normal?

[Savy]

Do you read, write, or talk less than normal?

I'm lazy when it comes to writing, especially when I was at school, so I'd just use simple basic language which can be both a good and a bad thing.

I think I've read about 5 books in the past 10 years, that's probably the biggest issue.

My writing in general though is fine, I've had to write 'masters level' uni essays this year and I've not written anything since GCSE and they've all been fine even though they're fairly last minute one draft wonders. I have a fairly basic writing style and use the same types of phrasing for things too much (as you can probably tell off reading my FTR posts).

[Poopadoop]

I'm fairly good at dissecting and analysing literature but my vocab is very basic compared to other well educated people. I should work on it but probably never will.

The thing about language is that anyone can master it to the extent they want to master it. I'm known in my field as a good writer, but if people realized that I almost daily consult a dictionary or thesaurus, or fret over every word when I'm writing something I want to be taken seriously they might reconsider their opinion and just think I'm OCD instead.

There's such a clear distinction between language skills which are rewarded by hard work and maths skills which are mainly innate (in my experience) that thinking of IQ as a measure of mental ability in general is silly. Math you're either good at or not, language is a battle.

[wufwugy]

The thing about language is that anyone can master it to the extent they want to master it. I'm known in my field as a good writer, but if people realized that I almost daily consult a dictionary or thesaurus, or fret over every word when I'm writing something I want to be taken seriously they might reconsider their opinion and just think I'm OCD instead.

There's such a clear distinction between language skills which are rewarded by hard work and maths skills which are mainly innate (in my experience) that thinking of IQ as a measure of mental ability in general is silly. Math you're either good at or not, language is a battle.

How does that change when it's on the fly, in the moment?

For example, Sam Harris. He might be the most articulate off the cuff speaker I know of. I'm a great speaker, but that dude is on another level. I may be a better conversationalist than him though, so there is that. Which makes me wonder how those skills differ, articulate speaking and conversation. Maybe like the difference between an interviewer and interviewee. The interviewee has to be good at articulating a thought in the most interesting way, but the interviewer as to be good at playing off the thought in the most interesting way.


Harris' mechanical, active speech is hilarious. It's what I do. I'm trying to go more visual (like what Trump does), but it's tough. I think in terms of movement more than picture, but picture is more effective at communicating to somebody that isn't already your choir.

[Poopadoop]

How does that change when it's on the fly, in the moment?

I think there is a notable distinction between language that comes easily in conversation and language that is deliberate. It's interesting, because I have colleagues who can win every argument face-to-face but ask others for help in putting the same argument in writing.

It seems a paradox because language is language but the way in which you use language differs between spoken convo and written discourse. There is no editing allowed in spoken language, but there is in written language. Maybe this is only a point of mine because the difference to me in the quality of my discourse is so stark. But generally I feel having the option of thinking first and talking second makes a huge difference in the quality of an argument. Maybe it should. Or maybe it's a failing unique to myself.

[MadMojoMonkey]

thinking of IQ as a measure of mental ability in general is silly

I agree 100%.

IQ tests are only testing a limited number of expressions of intelligence.
If social acumen was part of the tests, I'd be borderline retarded.

Math you're either good at or not, language is a battle.

Fake news... except for a minority of people who have an actual mental disorder.

You're allowed to not like math, but the assertion that you're bad at it for any reason aside from practice is not true for most people. I agree that some people need less practice than others. I can't agree with a cop-out being used by intelligent people to avoid learning.

[spoonitnow]

Fake news... except for a minority of people who have an actual mental disorder.

Women are more than half of the human race.

[Savy]

You're allowed to not like math, but the assertion that you're bad at it for any reason aside from practice is not true for most people. I agree that some people need less practice than others. I can't agree with a cop-out being used by intelligent people to avoid learning.

No maths is special!

Bernie Sanders is a fucking cuck

He cleans up the liberal pootang on basically every college campus in the US. He'd only be a cuck if he won got power then did everything he says he wanted to do.

[Poopadoop]

You're allowed to not like math, but the assertion that you're bad at it for any reason aside from practice is not true for most people. I agree that some people need less practice than others. I can't agree with a cop-out being used by intelligent people to avoid learning.

This is different from my own admittedly small sample conclusion, and I suspect may reflect the fact that if you can't do math you are not going to try physics. In psychology, I have encountered many people who can do logic, language, and analytical thinking but no matter how you try to explain it cannot do math much further than 2+2=4. The problem i feel in my field is such people aren't being weeded out because the math we do is sufficiently complicated that it is rare for any of them to be evaluated by anyone who is capable of understanding why what they are doing is wrong.

A simple example might illustrate my point: i recently reviewed a paper in which the authors analysed their data in a silly way. When I pointed that out, their counter was that they agreed with me but that someone had recently published a paper using the same silly analysis, so therefore it was ok. I don't even know what to say at this point....
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[MadMojoMonkey]

If people aren't shapes then why are you so obtuse?

[wufwugy]

How would you know? This isn't about finding a pattern in some shapes.

Actually wait I challenge the premise. I have known (do know) some stupid people. They don't believe they do any of those well.