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    Even your language here is self-contradictory. First you use the word "attack" and then by the end of it you make it sound like the Trumpers were a bunch of tourists just walked into a building and looked around.
    It was both. It was clearly planned, but once inside it was basically tourism. There was no plan beyond "occupy Capitol".

    Oskar has already explained to you the obvious distinction between what the BLM protests were about and what the Trumpers were doing. So I'm not going to bother with that again.
    No, oskar pointed out that the rioters were a small percentage of the overall protesters, and that looting was never the goal. That isn't distinguishing between government and civilian targets, which is what you asked me to clarify. You're point blank refusing to acknowledge such a distinction exists, presumably because you don't want to have to admit that occupying a building is not as bad as burning shops down.

    And more generally, this and your other posts about gov't vs. civlian property shows your general approach to any debate. Once it's clear you're getting shot down in flames you try to shift the argument to some tedious point that doesn't really matter in the larger scheme of things.
    Are you shitting me? You're the one who asked my what the difference between 2020 looters and yesterday's idiots is. Then when I tell you, you accuse me of shifting the argument... in the fucking direction you took me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It was both. It was clearly planned, but once inside it was basically tourism. There was no plan beyond "occupy Capitol".
    A fair proportion probably thought they had no chance of getting inside, and once they were let in they had no idea what to do. So they walked around and took selfies.

    That woman who got shot though was clearly trying to break in by climbing thru a broken window. It's not obvious what part of the building that happened in, but there were a bunch of them with her trying to get to somewhere they obviously weren't welcome. Pretty sure that's considered trespassing. Not sure who broke the window, but most likely it was the Trumpers.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    No, oskar pointed out that the rioters were a small percentage of the overall protesters, and that looting was never the goal. That isn't distinguishing between government and civilian targets, which is what you asked me to clarify. You're point blank refusing to acknowledge such a distinction exists, presumably because you don't want to have to admit that occupying a building is not as bad as burning shops down.
    Again you're still arguing about something that doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things. This isn't a nuanced discussion about the subtleties of property law. It's about people going into the Capitol building to fuck with the election process.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Are you shitting me? You're the one who asked my what the difference between 2020 looters and yesterday's idiots is. Then when I tell you, you accuse me of shifting the argument... in the fucking direction you took me.
    You're right I should have ignored it as irrelevant the first time you brought it up. There you go, I agreed with you twice in one day now, mark your calendar.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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