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I'm probably not the best person to debate this since I didn't watch the show. I'm just telling you that the guy who literally wrote the book on how liberalism infested television, says different.

It's prime time TV and they're seeking a wide audience, so obviously they aren't going to rant about "baby murder". They are just not-so-subtly suggesting that the "my body my choice" argument is valid.

And the crossdressing grand kid isn't necessarily a commentary on gender fluidity. It could also be more of a comment on masculinity, or as the left likes to call it, "toxic masculinity". They think there are no biological differences between men and women, and that children are virtually blank slates whose gender identity is determined by a social construction. Furthermore the social construction is unfair to women.

So the show seems to be saying that if a young boy wants to explore femininity, then that's ok. Discouraging that would be an oppressive function of the patriarchy. Encouraging the boy to be masculine, would be an oppressive function of the patriarchy. And if the boy himself decided to explore his masculinity, you can bet he'd be handed a cocktail of ADHD meds to quell his behavior.

Shapiro is suggesting that the show is suggesting that middle america agrees with all of that already. He's saying that the show is saying that "my body my choice", and "toxic masculinity" are social issues that are pretty much universally settled by everyone except the horrible fringes of the republican party.

I'm not even sure the kid is cross dressing. He just dresses fancy, probably with some stuff in the girls section. But I guess that means cross dressing so whatever.

More to the point, show covered the situation as follows: Dan and Roseanne thought it was bad news because the kid is gonna get his ass beat. Roseanne asks him what he thinks of himself, he thinks he's a boy. She asks him how important it is to him to do this, he says very important (he does it because creativity). Dan tries to do masculine things with him, his daughter pushes back on that, but Dan pushes back even harder, and Dan's pro-masculine pushback ends up being the main takeaway. Then it ends with the kid being really tough and sticking to what he wants.

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I'm not even sure the kid is cross dressing. He just dresses fancy, probably with some stuff in the girls section. But I guess that means cross dressing so whatever.

More to the point, show covered the situation as follows: Dan and Roseanne thought it was bad news because the kid is gonna get his ass beat. Roseanne asks him what he thinks of himself, he thinks he's a boy. She asks him how important it is to him to do this, he says very important (he does it because creativity). Dan tries to do masculine things with him, his daughter pushes back on that, but Dan pushes back even harder, and Dan's pro-masculine pushback ends up being the main takeaway. Then it ends with the kid being really tough and sticking to what he wants.

You're just proving Shapiro's point. If this was a show designed to appeal to conservatives (and I mean actual conservatives not just people who vote republican "cuz jobs jackie!"), then the pushback against the crossdressing kid would have been something like "boys are boys and girls are girls". Boys should dress like boys so they grow up to be boys. And not just grow up to be boys...they grow up to be men who act like men. Dressing boys like little men is a way to instill manhood in them. Letting little boys dress like girls does the opposite of that.

^If the show said that.....it would be off the air in two seconds.