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 Originally Posted by BananaStand
What fraud was committed? By whom?
DUH! And there are higher drowning deaths among people with swimming pools. What's your point?
When did I say that?
Yes
Like I said before, I consume copious amounts of information from tons of different sources. I recently had to google who Alex Jones was. So it's really not fair for you to lump him in the "mainstream". That's just your bias trying to conflate one crazy conspiracy theorist with the entirety of a group.
Who should he trust instead?
Why is this conversation suddenly about me and where I get my news. I've already told you where I get my news. Fuck you.
There's no way that I believe the assertion in your next paragraph about not using drugs. The above could only be written by someone high.
Uh no. If you act like you're on drugs, you fail.
I find this dubious. But even if its true, I'm sure you're on some kind of psychotropic cocktail. How many xanax have you had today?
So you read a book once, and now you think you know everything about an entire generation of Americans. But anyone who listens to Fox News is a blind idiot.
That's fine if the tax cuts finance growth, and the growth pays the debt. Obama ran up trillion dollar deficits too, except he wasted the money and economic growth was stagnant.
If someone uttered that sentence, but replaced "baby boomer" with "black people" you'd be calling them racist. Why is it wrong to homogenize entire groups of people based on race, but it's ok to do so based on age?
Freedom of religion allows for all kinds of crazy theories. What's your point?
Millions of criminals you mean
That's less than 5% of the total prison population. So how are draconian drug laws contributing to mass incarceration? What is putting the other 95% of people in prison?
I've mostly said my piece, I'll just point out a few things.
"That's fine if the tax cuts finance growth, and the growth pays the debt. Obama ran up trillion dollar deficits too, except he wasted the money and economic growth was stagnant. " He had $1 trillion deficits, after inheriting the WORST ECONOMIC DOWN TURN IN 80 YEARS.
See this is what's fucked about Republican economics, during good economic times? Jack the fucking SHIT out of the debt. Don't save for a rainy day. Deficit spend into oblivion, right? That's what Trump's doing right now. But during a harsh economic downturn? That's when you balance the budget. Their economics are basically reverse of what economists advocate for. Basically their goal is to make the economy so bad for the ordinary American, that they suffer a dramatic decrease in standard of living.
This is a sobering truth I'm going to give you, I understand you prefer comforting lies, over sobering truths. TAX CUTS DO NOT PAY FOR THEMSELVES. They are debt financed, they require large TAX INCREASES and spending cuts, down the road to pay for them.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...tax-cuts-real/
"For Trump’s tax cuts to pay for themselves, the economy would have to grow by $5.5 trillion, or roughly a sustained 4.5 percent, for the next 10 years, according to CRFB.
That’s a mark that any president is unlikely to hit."
No, we're NOT going to grow by 4.5% of GDP every year for the next 10 years, because that's what required for the tax cuts to pay for themselves. They're debt financed in essence. That is a fantasy world, a false reality, you believe in, that doesn't exist in the real world. I'm sure it's a very comforting lie to believe, but the sober truth is the economy will not grow fast enough, to pay for these tax cuts.
""I am not aware of any credible evidence (in the U.S.) over the last several decades of a broad-based tax cut paying for itself," said Alan Auerbach, an economist at the University of California, Berkeley. "I don't think this is at all controversial among actual economists."
Kleinbard was similarly emphatic: "There is no time in modern history where tax cuts could be said to pay for themselves.""
"There's no way that I believe the assertion in your next paragraph about not using drugs. The above could only be written by someone high."
LOL, that wasn't ME who made those stories. That's ALEX JONES! One of Trump's MOST TRUSTED media personalities!
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nasa-d...colony-on-mars
NASA had to publicly announce, They're NOT running child sex rings on Mars because of this.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pizzagate-conspiracy/
"A detailed conspiracy theory known as "Pizzagate" holds that a pedophile ring is operating out of a Clinton-linked pizzeria called Comet Ping Pong."
You can read about that one here, even had a guy with an AR15 showed up, shot his weapon, and demanded that Comet Ping Pong show where they were hiding the kids in this supposed pedophile ring at the pizza place. He's serving prison time over that.
"Freedom of religion allows for all kinds of crazy theories. What's your point? "
My point is if your citizens basically are brainwashed, and live in a false reality, that does not bode well for this country's future going forward. We need to do a better job at making sure people can distinguish between false bullshit, and actual facts.
You're guilty of this too.
You seem to believe that Trump's tax cuts will result in the 4.5% GDP growth, for ALL of the NEXT 10 YEARS that would be required for the cuts to pay for themselves. You're living in a false reality on that issue alone, we are NOT going to get 4.5% of GDP growth for all of the next 10 years, just because Trump made some changes to to the tax code. It's NOT going to happen.
"Millions of criminals you mean".
If you make lots of things illegal, you get lots of criminals. Make less things illegal, and you get less criminals. What I did in Amsterdam, I broke at least 5 American laws by my estimate, would have made for years in prison, registering as a sex offender (I hired a couple lady friend, and had to pull my junk at one point, and that easily requires for lewd and lascivious behavior in our legal code), and $10's of thousands of dollars in legal fees. I broke ZERO laws under the legal code in Amsterdam, and all my acts were victimless and nonviolent for that matter.
It seems you're basically arguing that you take pride in the US having a higher incarceration rate per capita, than the next 194 countries. You don't see it as a problem that we incarcerate more of our citizenry than any of the other 194 countries. And I do find it to be a problem. And that's our disagreement.
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