Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
Here's what happened:

I said this:



It is a key observation that many people have made in the past, yet it is an observation that is rarely accepted among those who do not like Trump. It is something that I have personally been consistent on, so I have at least an n=1 of behaving like his core beliefs and move telegraphs are distinct and understood by me.

Then I was told I was handwaving

Then I responded by pointing out that tons of people see it the way I do.

Then I was told I was saying something meaningless and being theological.

Then I was told that I don't even know what I meant (I do).

And then more of the above, but I'll stop here


The gap in this conversation is that it's not even a conversation. I'm being told what I think, that I don't know what I think, that my points are not points, etc..
Quite the victim you are.

If you can't see how closely your argument regarding Trumps "core beliefs" mirrors a defensive Christians arguments regarding why god does/doesn't do this or that, then I'm not sure what to say. I'm open to the idea that my "trump-hate" is biasing me away from being able to discern his true message, but if this is the case, you're doing an awful job of making the case-- to make the case convincingly you need to clearly distinguish it from the "well it's because you don't have faith" argument the religious will throw at you.