*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[CoccoBill]

Well, this is an interesting comment. You're suggesting here that refusal of admission is "punsihment". No, it's not. If someone wants to come in my house, I'm not punsihing anyone by telling them to fuck off. I'm protecting my fucking territory from outsiders. That's almost, dare I say it, instinctive.

Thanks. And yeah, from your perspective it may be protecting or something else, but from the other person's view it's a sort of punishment.

[BananaStand]

Thanks. And yeah, from your perspective it may be protecting or something else, but from the other person's view it's a sort of punishment.

Holy crap man. Get the fuck out of Finland. It's clear that immersing yourself in leftist retards is affecting your thinking.

"from the other person's view"......pFFFFFTT. That other person is FUCKING WRONG. Seriously, if an immigrant with no skills, no education, and nothing offer the host country's economy, then it's NOT a punishment to deny access. That's a fair assessment of merit. The type of person who perceives that as a personal retaliation is a narcissistic, egotistical, whelp that believes the world owes them a living, and expects a government to provide it. Fuck those people. I hope they all get AIDS.

[CoccoBill]

"from the other person's view"......pFFFFFTT. That other person is FUCKING WRONG. Seriously, if an immigrant with no skills, no education, and nothing offer the host country's economy, then it's NOT a punishment to deny access. That's a fair assessment of merit. The type of person who perceives that as a personal retaliation is a narcissistic, egotistical, whelp that believes the world owes them a living, and expects a government to provide it. Fuck those people. I hope they all get AIDS.

I think the word for this is "projection". When ong was talking about not letting some dude in to his house, I'm not sure he meant specifically an immigrant with no skills, no education, and nothing to offer ong's economy. On the other hand, I've figured out your formula:

1. Quote a random sentence out of context
2. Start off with some insults
3. Build a strawman loosely related to the topic and attack that
4. Add a couple more indirect insults and/or threats
5. Feel smug about yourself having "won"

[BananaStand]

I think the word for this is "projection".

I'm thinking of a word. It rhymes with bunt.

When ong was talking about not letting some dude in to his house, I'm not sure he meant specifically an immigrant with no skills, no education, and nothing to offer ong's economy.

You're right. Ong was obviously talking about an intruder/invader. However, your response indicated that a potential intruder would reasonably perceive being thwarted as a "punishment". That's something an insane retard would think. So I gave you a modicum of credit and assumed that you misunderstood Ong, and you were talking about a regular, run of the mill, pain in the ass, immigrant. But if I'm wrong, and you actually are an insane retard, then I stand corrected.

On the other hand, I've figured out your formula:

Wait a minute, we're not done with the first part yet. Who do you think feels punished? Punished for what?

1. Quote a random sentence out of context

Fucking Finnish schools!!! Not only do you not know the definition of the word "punishment"; but apparently the words "random" and "out of context" are far outside your vocabulary. I quoted Post #3132 in its entirety numbnuts.

2. Start off with some insults calling out idiocy with strong but apt adjectives.

Fixed your post

3. Build a strawman loosely related to the topic and attack that

Strawman? As I've said. I presumed we were talking about run of the mill immigrants with nothing but demands and expectations from their host country. I made that presumption based on another presumption that you had at least two brain cells to rub together. However, I'm willing to stand corrected if you're telling me I misrepresented your retarded insanity about thwarted invaders feeling "punished".

4. Add a couple more indirect insults and/or threats

Can't blame Finland for this one. You're not the only person on this forum who doesn't know the definition of the word "threat"

5. Feel smug about yourself having "won"

Again! Your vocabulary is a atrocious. Won?? This isn't a contest man. It's not about winning. It's about identifying crackpot thinking and calling it out for the deranged pig-shit that it is. However, it's clear that having your progressive-cuck worldview challenged and destroyed is something that makes you boil over with cognitive dissonance. And for that, I feel smug.

[MadMojoMonkey]

1. Quote a random sentence out of context
2. Start off with some insults
3. Build a strawman loosely related to the topic and attack that
4. Add a couple more indirect insults and/or threats
5. Feel smug about yourself having "won"

lol.

Maybe not 100% right, but in the upper 90's.
(Seriously, number 5 should be the intro.)

[OngBonga]

Thanks. And yeah, from your perspective it may be protecting or something else, but from the other person's view it's a sort of punishment.

Why is it punishment? If I try to move to New Zealand, and they say I'm useless to them so I can stay in the UK, well I'm not being punsihed by New Zealand. I have no God-given right to go where the hell I like on the planet. I mean, if I demand $100 off you, and you politely tell me to fuck off, are you punishing me? By your logic, it seems so.

[BananaStand]

if I demand $100 off you, and you politely tell me to fuck off, are you punishing me? By your leftist's logic, it seems so.

Fixed your post

[Savy]

Why is it punishment? If I try to move to New Zealand, and they say I'm useless to them so I can stay in the UK, well I'm not being punsihed by New Zealand. I have no God-given right to go where the hell I like on the planet. I mean, if I demand $100 off you, and you politely tell me to fuck off, are you punishing me? By your logic, it seems so.

Why don't you? It makes no sense to me that you can't go where you want but other people can dictate where you can and can't go.

[BananaStand]

Why don't you? It makes no sense to me that you can't go where you want but other people can dictate where you can and can't go.

It really bothers me that you're an educator.

If you expect a government to provide a sufficient infrastructure to maintain an economy, and you expect a government to maintain law and order to the degree that it ensures a fair market place........then OBVIOUSLY you care about who is coming into your country, and how many.

[Savy]

It really bothers me that you're an educator.

If you expect a government to provide a sufficient infrastructure to maintain an economy, and you expect a government to maintain law and order to the degree that it ensures a fair market place........then OBVIOUSLY you care about who is coming into your country, and how many.

Yep we need government to do all of those things. God forbid they didn't.

[OngBonga]

Why don't you? It makes no sense to me that you can't go where you want but other people can dictate where you can and can't go.

It makes no sense to you? Thing is, in the case of New Zealand, the NZ govt have a resposibility to provide for those already there. That's kind of their job, to ensure their population is educated, healthy as has the neccessary infrastrusture to work. Why should they just let me go there to live? What does New Zealand owe me? I'll tell you what... exactly the same amount that the UK owes people from outside of these shores.

I can't go to live in NZ because I don't have any moeny and I don't have a job to go to. Is it fair? Of course it is. If they have a responsibility to me, then they have the same responsibility to another 7 billion people.

[Savy]

It makes no sense to you? Thing is, in the case of New Zealand, the NZ govt have a resposibility to provide for those already there. That's kind of their job, to ensure their population is educated, healthy as has the neccessary infrastrusture to work. Why should they just let me go there to live? What does New Zealand owe me? I'll tell you what... exactly the same amount that the UK owes people from outside of these shores.

I can't go to live in NZ because I don't have any moeny and I don't have a job to go to. Is it fair? Of course it is. If they have a responsibility to me, then they have the same responsibility to another 7 billion people.

The only thing with this is that you don't just want to go to NZ you want NZ to look after you they are different things.

Also it's very easy to argue that the UK has a larger obligation to fairly large parts of the world compared to what NZ does to you lol.

[BananaStand]

people from outside of these shores.

Is that an actual British expression?

"these shores"?

You're an island, you have ONE shore

[CoccoBill]

Why is it punishment? If I try to move to New Zealand, and they say I'm useless to them so I can stay in the UK, well I'm not being punsihed by New Zealand. I have no God-given right to go where the hell I like on the planet. I mean, if I demand $100 off you, and you politely tell me to fuck off, are you punishing me? By your logic, it seems so.

I used the word punishment just as a general sentiment (crime and punishment), but I don't see why it wouldn't work here. Without a criminal record you're able to migrate to NZ if you qualified on the rest of the immigration criteria, right? The "punishment" for having one is denied access. A punishment by definition is "a penalty inflicted as retribution for an offence". I don't think that's such a leap in semantics. The demand for a $100 is obviously a different issue, it isn't a case where you'd be eligible for that money without having done an offence.

[OngBonga]

The demand for a $100 is obviously a different issue, it isn't a case where you'd be eligible for that money without having done an offence.

Eligble? No one is automatically "eligible" to enter another nation. Rights are not being taken away from declined migrants. On the contrary, rights are granted to accepted migrants.

[BananaStand]

A punishment by definition is "a penalty inflicted as retribution for an offence".

It's like you don't even know how entitled your thinking really is. Read what you just wrote there. Think about what each word actually means. Now apply that to the context of this conversation, and tell me how you're making any damn sense.

Go look up the word "penalty".

Being denied an unearned privilege is NOT a penalty.

It's this kind of "the world owes me" thinking that's driving Scandinavia's economy into the sewer.

[OngBonga]

But all of this is of course meaningless to the discussion, as you well know. It is not ok to e.g. deny a person access to a country based on their beliefs, whether you call that a punishment or not.

You called it a punishment, and yes it is perfectly acceptable to deny someone entry for any reason whatsoever. We have no obligation in the first place. There is no entitlement. We should do what New Zealand does and only accept people who are of net benefit to the receiving state.