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    All the more reason to be part of a bloc and not try to go it alone.
    You seem to be missing the point. Out of the EU, we are free to negotiate. Within the EU, we are not. How is it better to be trapped in a continental bloc when there's a world out there?

    Like what? Some laws that don't affect you at all? Oh big deal.
    Don't affect me? Are you being willfully ignorant or something?

    Here's some reading for you... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_law

    I know you won't read it, I can't be fucked to either, but you might note how long the article is, and each section has its own link to its own page for further detail.

    Lol, spoken like a true jingoist. "I don't want them damn foreigners bringing jobs to my country!"
    I like how you say "spoken like a true jingoist" and then change my quote so it sounds like a true jingoist. You disingenuous twat.

    Guess BBC was lying then.
    There's a surprise.

    But why let a popular vote given to largely uninformed (or misinformed) and uneducated people decide a complex issue? This isn't about what they name the next royal baby; it's actually something important.
    This is pretty insulting to the country you have migrated to. You think British people are only qualified to talk about shit like Royal babies? You think we're uneducated and too stupid to be allowed democracy? With all due respect, which is none, fuck off.

    Pretty sure there is no such rule.
    No, but there are financial and practical limitations.

    We should have a referendum on NATO too - I'm tired of being part of an alliance.
    Fuck yes. NATO is by its very existence an anti-Russian body which ceases to have real purpose if Russia is not actually an enemy. Hence, constant propaganda maintaining the threat Russia pose. NATO causes more problems than it solves.

    ya I know people who think it's barely a political union at all. It's not like there's a common foreign policy or really much that's common besides free trade and labour.
    Are you aware how the EU has evolved over time? They're talking about a joint army now. That will result in joint foreign policy. You think it's all trade and labour? And here you call British people uneducated and misinformed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You seem to be missing the point. Out of the EU, we are free to negotiate. Within the EU, we are not. How is it better to be trapped in a continental bloc when there's a world out there?
    Nvr mind, you're right.

    I think we should also have some tariffs and borders between counties. I'm sick of people from Yorkshire coming here taking jobs and selling me their shit.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Don't affect me? Are you being willfully ignorant or something?

    Here's some reading for you... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_law
    Name me one of those laws that directly affects you. Explain how it's had a negative impact on your life.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I know you won't read it, I can't be fucked to either,
    So calling me willfully ignorant was just you projecting?





    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I like how you say "spoken like a true jingoist" and then change my quote so it sounds like a true jingoist.
    Well, that's pretty much what you said. Except you couched it in terms like foreign business investment was somehow bad for the people who live here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    There's a surprise.
    Why do you have data that says Remain was way ahead? Like 80-20 ahead?



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    This is pretty insulting to the country you have migrated to. You think British people are only qualified to talk about shit like Royal babies? You think we're uneducated and too stupid to be allowed democracy?
    I think the British people are collectively about the same as people in every other country. There's some with above average intelligence and an equal number with below average intelligence. There's also a fair share of people who don't understand the issues they're voting on. If you think the UK is somehow special in that regard, then that is jingoistic.


    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Ok ong-bananga.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    No, but there are financial and practical limitations.
    The same applies to elections. Why should they happen so much more frequently? What happened to democracy?



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Fuck yes. NATO is by its very existence an anti-Russian body which ceases to have real purpose if Russia is not actually an enemy. Hence, constant propaganda maintaining the threat Russia pose. NATO causes more problems than it solves.
    Not sure if you're aware or not, but Russia just recently invaded the Ukraine and annexed the Crimea. So apparently they are something of a threat.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Are you aware how the EU has evolved over time? They're talking about a joint army now. That will result in joint foreign policy. You think it's all trade and labour? And here you call British people uneducated and misinformed.
    ya, talking and doing and two different things. Also, I'm pretty sure membership in the joint army would not be mandatory.

    Moreover, the various members of the EU have often taken independent lines of foreign policy. Some went to Iraq War II and some didn't, for example.

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