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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Would you take the following bet: You get to spend an arbitrary amount to build a wall. If I can scale the wall, you have to pay me the amount of money you spent on the wall. If I can't, I have to pay. Is that something you're comfortable with?
    10,000 percent yes. I'll even give you odds. What do you want, 20 to 1? 100 to 1? I honestly do not care what the number is.

    You might have missed it, but US special forces (Navy Seals) spent THREE FUCKING WEEKS trying to breach wall prototypes with conventional tools/gear (everything short of rocket launchers), and they could not get over, under, around, or through the wall. Navy fucking Seals

    Walls work.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    10,000 percent yes
    Never heard of a rope and grappling hook I guess. You owe Oskar $20b
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Never heard of a rope and grappling hook I guess. You owe Oskar $20b
    Do some research on this. As I just mentioned...special forces spent three weeks trying this. In that entire time, among dozens of the most highly trained human specimens on earth, only one guy was able to get a grappling hook to stick on the top. Once...in three weeks of trying.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post

    You might have missed it, but US special forces (Navy Seals) spent THREE FUCKING WEEKS trying to breach wall prototypes with conventional tools/gear (everything short of rocket launchers), and they could not get over, under, around, or through the wall. Navy fucking Seals
    you so funny.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8237631.html
  5. #5
    Apparently the impenetrable Wall isn't quite ready for mass production yet.

    A Customs and Border Protection report on the tests had identified "strengths and flaws of each design but does not pick an overall winner or rank them, though it does point to see-through steel barriers topped by concrete as the best overall design," the AP reported.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Apparently the impenetrable Wall isn't quite ready for mass production yet.
    All that quote seems to be saying is that it's really easy to build an effective wall, and no design is particularly superior.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    All that quote seems to be saying is that it's really easy to build an effective wall, and no design is particularly superior.
    The quote says each design has weaknesses (i.e., none are impregnable, presumably even by people without special skills/equipment). The best design was the steel slats, but get a cutting torch and a tank of acetylene and Oskar is $20b richer.

    It doesn't say whether the "best" design is also $20k per foot either. So it doesn't really seem settled.
  8. #8
    “Only once did a tester manage to land a hook on top of the wall without help,” the AP reported, according to one source.
    This is a bit ambiguous. What kind of "help?" It could have just been another guy helping him throw it.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    but get a cutting torch and a tank of acetylene and Oskar is $20b richer.
    Right...like it's just that easy. You could chip at it with a teaspoon and eventually break through if you were persistent enough. Didn't you see Shawshank?? The idea that you could cut through and make any meaningful breach of the border quickly enough to not get caught is just preposterous.

    The wall prototypes can't be climbed over. They can't be breached quickly enough to avoid detection. they have sensors that can identify underground tunnelling. If those sensors go 20 ft deep....I guess you could dig a tunnel 30feet deep. But then you've really got a deterrent there.

    Would you take your kids for miles through an underground tunnel, 30ft down, dug discreetly by criminals?? How bad would shit have to be in guatemala before you tried that?
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Right...like it's just that easy. You could chip at it with a teaspoon and eventually break through if you were persistent enough. Didn't you see Shawshank?? The idea that you could cut through and make any meaningful breach of the border quickly enough to not get caught is just preposterous.
    How thick do you think these steel beams are? A cutting torch goes through steel pretty quick. A hacksaw, maybe an hour. So is your patrol going to cover every inch of the wall every hour?
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Oh so it wasn't special forces, it was just regular military. My bad I guess. Nice fact check bro!! HIGH FIVE!!

    But we're clear now....for three weeks "highly trained testers" did everything within reason to try and breach that wall. And they could not do so.

    I'm willing to bet $20B that Oskar can't either.

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