*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[wufwugy]

"Blumpf forces hardworking nurses into poverty".

[wufwugy]

Has this ever been more relevant?

[spoonitnow]

lol

[spoonitnow]

Trump getting cheered like a motherfucker at the college football championship game. Shitting on the NFL big time.

[BananaStand]

You'll never convince me that this isn't the most compelling, complete, conclusive, and cogent analysis of disproportionate poverty among black populations. You'll never convince me that racism, biased policing, or white privilege are the reasons that black people are less prosperous.

To me it's clear. Go to school, wear a rubber, and you'll be FINE regardless of what color your skin is.

[spoonitnow]

Go to school

This is the only issue I have with your points. Their schools are super fucked up, largely because of the way funding is distributed via property taxes. Voucher system ftw.

[BananaStand]

This is the only issue I have with your points. Their schools are super fucked up,

So???

Again, this analysis makes no distinction for the quality of school systems. Furthermore, I doubt very very much that that the 30+% of black kids that drop out of high school cite "underfunding" as the reason.

When you apply for a job, the application will ask you what is the highest level of education that you've completed. If you have completed any level of education, at the very least it's a testament to your ability to show up regularly and successfully complete rudimentary tasks. If you haven't completed any level of education, it suggests a lack of commitment and drive.

Employers really don't care if you mastered trigonometry. They don't care if you can recall the circumstances surrounding the War of 1812. They don't care if you know who Aaron Burr is. They care about reliability and work ethic. A diploma is evidence that you have those things. Not having a diploma is evidence that you don't.

I'm not saying that underfunding schools in minority areas is not a problem. It is. But it's a LOOOOOOONG way from explaining why a group that represents 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of the murders and robberies in this country.

[MadMojoMonkey]

You'll never convince me [...]

Do you openly embrace fanaticism, or is it something you do by mistake?
(I'm legitimately curious.)

[spoonitnow]

Do you openly embrace fanaticism, or is it something you do by mistake?
(I'm legitimately curious.)

I think you're overstepping here.

[BananaStand]

Do you openly embrace fanaticism, or is it something you do by mistake?
(I'm legitimately curious.)

Cold, unbiased, provable, repeatable, irrefutable facts are compelling to me.

Do physicists feel differently?

[MadMojoMonkey]

I think you're overstepping here.

Given that's perfectly non-insulting or offensive criticism of me, which came from spoonitnow of all people, I'll have to seek the truth in it.

Am I wrong about fanaticism? I understand fanaticism as the adherence to a belief despite any and all contrary evidence which may or may eventually come to light.
As such, any statement which expresses, "You'll never convince me otherwise," is inherently, and definitively fanatical.

If I'm misusing the word, I apologize.
If something else, you have my attention.

Cold, unbiased, provable, repeatable, irrefutable facts are compelling to me.

Do physicists feel differently?

There is no such thing as a scientific fact, or if there is, the "scientific" part makes it not a "fact" in the colloquial usage.

Nothing can be considered a scientific result unless it describes the means by which it can be shown it is false.

Newton said, paraphrasing, F = ma. Einstein showed that is definitely false, without special treatment of m, which Newton definitely did not say or mean to say.
So any assertion that F = ma and "nothing could convince me otherwise," is a perfectly unscientific statement.
No matter how true it seemed for a couple hundred years, eventually, more information came to light, and showed it was not true.

This is the exact difference between science and fanaticism.

[BananaStand]

Given that's perfectly non-insulting or offensive criticism of me, which came from spoonitnow of all people, I'll have to seek the truth in it.

I guess that means you're going to ignore what I'm about to say, but I know you'll read it anyway, so here ya go

Am I wrong about fanaticism?

Yes

I understand fanaticism as the adherence to a belief despite any and all contrary evidence which may or may eventually come to light.

No, the word you're looking for there is "faith". It's different.

As such, any statement which expresses, "You'll never convince me otherwise," is inherently, and definitively fanatical.

Is it fanatical to say "You'll never convince me that the sun won't rise in the east tomorrow morning?"

Is it fanatical to say "You'll never convince me that wiping my ass after shitting is less sanitary than not wiping"

Is it fanatical to say "You'll never convince me that Pepsi is not fucking delicious"

If so, then I guess I'm guilty as charged. I'm sorry I don't subscribe to your hair-splitting, annoying, nerdy philosophy where science doesn't actually know anything, and nothing is actually true. I live in the real world, where for practical purposes, we throw out the possibility of events with an infinitesimally low likelihood.

If you wanna be a nerd about it, then I guess in some backwards, upside-down, parallel universe, I could be convinced that babies having babies and dropping out of high school has no impact on their long-term economic success. There....are you happy nerd??

If I'm misusing the word, I apologize.

How about you apologize for this ass-hole de-rail?? I mean, what's the point of this semantic douche-baggery??? We were having a nice discussion about politics and economics, and you came in here for no other reason than to shit on me.

There is no such thing as a scientific fact, or if there is, the "scientific" part makes it not a "fact" in the colloquial usage

I never used that term. But thanks for the lesson professor.

[Poopadoop]

Newton said, paraphrasing, F = ma. Einstein showed that is definitely false, without special treatment of m, which Newton definitely did not say or mean to say.
So any assertion that F = ma and "nothing could convince me otherwise," is a perfectly unscientific statement.
No matter how true it seemed for a couple hundred years, eventually, more information came to light, and showed it was not true.

How many beliefs do we currently hold that are untrue? In Banana's case it's obviously zero, but I'm speaking of scientific beliefs (or "Facts" if you will). I hazard it's a value close to 100%.

[spoonitnow]

Given that's perfectly non-insulting or offensive criticism of me, which came from spoonitnow of all people, I'll have to seek the truth in it.

Am I wrong about fanaticism? I understand fanaticism as the adherence to a belief despite any and all contrary evidence which may or may eventually come to light.

As such, any statement which expresses, "You'll never convince me otherwise," is inherently, and definitively fanatical.

Your misstep is on the word "belief." He doesn't believe it. He knows it. That makes it not subject to your definition of fanaticism.

For example, I believe you're a cuck, and there's nothing that could change my belief in that. That is fanaticism, in a completely hypothetical example.

[BananaStand]

Furthermore....I disagree with the premise that school funding directly correlates to the quality of education received. I'm sure it has some impact, but it's hardly a compelling factor when you consider the effect of a family dynamic that emphasizes education.

My kids get good grades. Is that because they're white? Is it because they go to school at a place with sufficient funding and favorable rankings? Or.....is it because their father makes an effort to take an active role in their education? Would my kids be as academically successful if I weren't keeping track of what's being taught, reinforcing the lessons with additional discussion, engaging actively in their homework, and motivating them to invest effort in their school work?

By the same token, I wholeheartedly believe that if my kids went to some shitty, ramshackle, inner city school that it would hardly make a difference in their long-term success. I believe education is 90% in the home.

[spoonitnow]

Employers really don't care if you mastered trigonometry. They don't care if you can recall the circumstances surrounding the War of 1812. They don't care if you know who Aaron Burr is. They care about reliability and work ethic. A diploma is evidence that you have those things. Not having a diploma is evidence that you don't.

I'm not saying that underfunding schools in minority areas is not a problem. It is. But it's a LOOOOOOONG way from explaining why a group that represents 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of the murders and robberies in this country.

I agree with this in general, especially the bold, and I'm not disputing your general point. However, there are key skills, especially literacy, that even high school graduates often don't have when they come out of these schools. In areas with low property values, regardless of the race composition, literacy levels are lower among high school graduates.

It might be worth pointing out that this is mostly me bitching about teacher's unions not wanting to use the voucher system.

I'm not saying that funding for those schools is the only factor, and I definitely think the responsibility overall falls on the parents. However, the kids don't get to choose whether they have a father around or if their mom gives a shit about them for more than a monthly check. If they have shitty schools on top of that, there's virtually no way for a majority of them to come out of that with skills needed to be reliable workers.

A kid at 10 years old who can't read is most likely not going to be able to read by the time he turns 18, and the number one reason given for dropping out of high school in low-income areas is that the kids can't do worth a shit in school, and they feel like it's pointless. I'm not worried about 16-year-olds who make a conscious choice to be a piece of shit when they have other legitimate options. I'm talking about the 10-year-old who can't read with no parent or teacher or other mentor figure who gives enough of a shit about them to guide them in the right direction. That kid is fucked, and that's a huge percentage of kids in these situations. Then their kids are going to be fucked, and it'll just keep going and going.

Social promotion has a lot to do with this too. They promote kids along to the next grade regardless of if they fail or not because they don't have the resources to hold back so many kids into the lower grades. They'll use stupid ass excuses for doing it like it would embarrass the kid to be held back or some shit like that, but they really just don't have the money or the teachers to make it work. It's stupid as fuck, but they keep doing it because they can and because they don't have incentives not to.

The lack of a father in the home is the number one predictor that a kid will end up in jail or prison in his lifetime. Nothing's going to change that. However, increasing the quality of education available outside of the home decreases the chances of the same, even among children without a father. The voucher system is better than the current property values-based system because it provides a higher level of free market incentives for schools to perform better. It's not perfect, but it's much better than the current system based purely on local property taxes while costing about the same amount (not taking into account future tax savings from having lower rates of illiteracy, crime, etc.)

[BananaStand]

Here's a fun question.....

Wolff's book alleges that Trump didn't want to win the election.

But if he was intent on losing, what in the world would ever motivate him to collude with the Russians?

[spoonitnow]

Here's a fun question.....

Wolff's book alleges that Trump didn't want to win the election.

But if he was intent on losing, what in the world would ever motivate him to collude with the Russians?

Yeah but oskar said:

Nobody here gives a shit about that douchebag.

[BananaStand]

You're not wrong. But my original response stands...

So?????

I'm talking about the 10-year-old who can't read with no parent or teacher or other mentor figure who gives enough of a shit about them to guide them in the right direction. That kid is fucked,

While this is true, do you really think that better school funding is going to un-fuck that kid??

There is surely a black kid being born right this very second, less than a day old, who is already FUCKED FOR LIFE! His dad won't be around. His mom will be hooked on drugs. Good school or not, without that parental motivation, he's unlikely to gain a useful command of the english language. He'll be growing up in a neighborhood full of street crime, violence, and drugs. He'll be exposed to gangs. Every media source he comes into contact with will be telling him how cool it is to be a thug and how badass it is to treat women like garbage. His role models will be telling him that the system is rigged, and he shouldn't bother trying.

THAT KID IS FUCKED. FOREVER. And he's only 5 seconds old.

You can't un-fuck that kid. You can't do ANYTHING legislatively that is going to bring about the kind of changes required to put kids like this on the right track. These kids are absolutely lost causes. Trying to fix unfixable problems is just an exercise in stupidity.

The best thing we can do for that kid, is try to make it so he's never born in the first place.

[spoonitnow]

You're not wrong. But my original response stands...

So?????



While this is true, do you really think that better school funding is going to un-fuck that kid??

There is surely a black kid being born right this very second, less than a day old, who is already FUCKED FOR LIFE! His dad won't be around. His mom will be hooked on drugs. Good school or not, without that parental motivation, he's unlikely to gain a useful command of the english language. He'll be growing up in a neighborhood full of street crime, violence, and drugs. He'll be exposed to gangs. Every media source he comes into contact with will be telling him how cool it is to be a thug and how badass it is to treat women like garbage. His role models will be telling him that the system is rigged, and he shouldn't bother trying.

THAT KID IS FUCKED. FOREVER. And he's only 5 seconds old.

You can't un-fuck that kid. You can't do ANYTHING legislatively that is going to bring about the kind of changes required to put kids like this on the right track. These kids are absolutely lost causes. Trying to fix unfixable problems is just an exercise in stupidity.

The best thing we can do for that kid, is try to make it so he's never born in the first place.

I agree with your general sentiment that the kid is going to have an uphill battle, to say the least.

However, if what you're arguing (that there is 0 chance) was strictly true, then there would be a 0 percent success rate for those kids. There's not.

Additionally, I'm not talking about more school funding. I'm talking about changing how the distribution of funding is determined by using free market principles. It's a freeroll.

[BananaStand]

I agree with your general sentiment that the kid is going to have an uphill battle, to say the least..

Massively hyperbolic understatement. I prefer the term "hopelessly fucked for life". I think that's far far more accurate.

However, if what you're arguing (that there is 0 chance) was strictly true, then there would be a 0 percent success rate for those kids. There's not.

It's close enough to 0. I believe any evidence of a non-zero success rate is anecdotal. I'm also having a hard time envisioning how government would be driving any of these success stories.

Additionally, I'm not talking about more school funding.

Neither am I. I said "better funding", not "more".

I'm talking about changing how the distribution of funding is determined by using free market principles. It's a freeroll.

The free market says that a meritocracy should exist where people who are successful in keeping their community property values high through enhanced school programs, low crime rates, investment in business, increased amenities, and decreased pollution are entitled to the benefits of that success.

It's not a freeroll to those people if the government takes their money and then gives it to other communities where people don't care about crime, where they don't invest in business, where they don't take care of their land, and where they openly shirk any sense of personal responsibility.

There's a term for that and it's not "freeroll". It's actually called taxation without representation.

[spoonitnow]

The free market says that a meritocracy should exist where people who are successful in keeping their community property values high through enhanced school programs, low crime rates, investment in business, increased amenities, and decreased pollution are entitled to the benefits of that success.

It's not a freeroll to those people if the government takes their money and then gives it to other communities where people don't care about crime, where they don't invest in business, where they don't take care of their land, and where they openly shirk any sense of personal responsibility.

There's a term for that and it's not "freeroll". It's actually called taxation without representation.

I'm not sure if you understand how the voucher system works and how it doesn't work.

Under the current system, a low-income parent is forced to send his or her child to school X. They have no choice. The representative funding for that child is given to that school directly from the government regardless of how that school performs. There is no incentive for the school to perform well.

Under a voucher system, a low-income parent gets to decide to send the child to school X, Y or Z. They do have a choice. The representative funding for that child goes to the school that is chosen. This provides incentives for the schools to perform well to be competitive. Otherwise, they're out of jobs.

This also creates an upward pressure in public education in general, which currently doesn't exist.

[BananaStand]

I'm not sure if you understand how the voucher system works and how it doesn't work.

Under the current system, a low-income parent is forced to send his or her child to school X. They have no choice. The representative funding for that child is given to that school directly from the government regardless of how that school performs. There is no incentive for the school to perform well.

Under a voucher system, a low-income parent gets to decide to send the child to school X, Y or Z. They do have a choice. The representative funding for that child goes to the school that is chosen. This provides incentives for the schools to perform well to be competitive. Otherwise, they're out of jobs.

This also creates an upward pressure in public education in general, which currently doesn't exist.

It's a nice dream, but there are so many "what if's" and "yeah buts" that I just don't see it being viable except in maybe a few locales.

[BananaStand]

And if you want to talk about redistributing education money, let's talk about teachers.

The average teacher in Chicago makes almost $80k per year, plus health, dental, and pension. This in exchange for working a job with every weekend off and six months vacation time.

And if you google "dropout rate Chicago", you'll lots of articles touting the city's recent PRIDE over raising the graduation rate to 73 percent. That number is also BS cause it's a "5-year graduation rate". Meaning that the REAL graduation rate is actually lower. Looks to me like these extremely highly compensated, but apparently low-skilled employees can't even hit a 2/3 success rate.

[spoonitnow]

And if you want to talk about redistributing education money, let's talk about teachers.

The average teacher in Chicago makes almost $80k per year, plus health, dental, and pension. This in exchange for working a job with every weekend off and six months vacation time.

And if you google "dropout rate Chicago", you'll lots of articles touting the city's recent PRIDE over raising the graduation rate to 73 percent. That number is also BS cause it's a "5-year graduation rate". Meaning that the REAL graduation rate is actually lower. Looks to me like these extremely highly compensated, but apparently low-skilled employees can't even hit a 2/3 success rate.

Sure. I hear you. That money is guaranteed no matter if they suck or if they don't because parents don't get a choice. They have to send their kid to school X, and school X gets the funding. Unions don't exactly help the situation (gee, wonder why they're so against a voucher system and want to maintain the status quo), and teachers get blown-up compensation that does not reflect their performance.

The voucher system introduces an element that ties pay to performance that does not exist under the current system. Your complaints in the quote above are exactly why something needs to change. They're getting paid to not do their fucking jobs.

Don't even get me started on unions in general, but why a teacher's union exists is completely fucking beyond me.

[BananaStand]

Don't even get me started on unions in general, but why a teacher's union exists is completely fucking beyond me.

I have a sister, sister-in-law, and a brother-in-law who are all teachers. They all tell me that they joined the union because the cost is minimal, and they will have your back if you get sued. Apparently it's common enough for kids to turn molehills into mountains, or for over-zealous parents to claim some kind of professional malpractice that it's definitely +EV to join the Union.

[spoonitnow]

I have a sister, sister-in-law, and a brother-in-law who are all teachers. They all tell me that they joined the union because the cost is minimal, and they will have your back if you get sued. Apparently it's common enough for kids to turn molehills into mountains, or for over-zealous parents to claim some kind of professional malpractice that it's definitely +EV to join the Union.

Of course it's +EV to join the teacher's union, or they wouldn't do it.

Those fucks in Chicago didn't get all that money for not doing their jobs for nothing.

[wufwugy]

Vouchers can fix some problems, not all.

If we were serious about fixing the education problems, we would return it to a market of consumer choice and first-party payment.

[wufwugy]

On the topic of the facts involved with blacks and poverty, I'd say the facts are not persuasive because enough confounding variables exist that allow for different interpretations.

A lot of this stuff can get figured out with just the facts. For example the facts probably do not show increasing racism correlating with increasing black poverty. Like Sowell discusses, the opposite has happened, racism has been declining while black poverty has been increasing. There are some facts that counter, like a positive correlation between the drug war and black poverty. I don't know if this correlation is real, but I think it might be. I think we should focus on interpreting these types of statistics as best we can. For example, the claim is common that there aren't that many black fathers anymore because theyre all in prison. Well, okay, so, one thing that implies is that drug dealers would become fathers if they didn't get caught. Well, that doesn't make sense. We can look at other facts, like how the theme is very well-known by blacks (as far as I know) that male promiscuity is big and fatherhood is very unpopular. That ain't gonna be caused by the police.

The best economic explanation I know of by a long shot is that of welfare, which is probably why such a prominent economist like Sowell discusses it so much. When you pay women to be single mothers, what are you going to get? Is that the only factor? No. Though it makes the most sense as the most pivotal factor. Like Sowell says, blacks were overcoming the factor of racism just fine for quite a while. Even though it is relevant, it isn't what pivoted the communities into ghettos.

[wufwugy]

Doesn't BStand live in one of the boroughs? Hyperbole is how they talk over there.

[BananaStand]

Doesn't BStand live in one of the boroughs? Hyperbole is how they talk over there.

Stop trying to convince people you aren't me.

And if by 'boroughs' you mean NYC, you're wrong. I have no interest in even visiting.

I currently reside in what might possibly be the last bastion of individual freedom in America.

Live Free or Die

[wufwugy]

Stop trying to convince people you aren't me.

And if by 'boroughs' you mean NYC, you're wrong. I have no interest in even visiting.

I currently reside in what might possibly be the last bastion of individual freedom in America.

Live Free or Die

Heh. I've considered moving over there, something something free state project. In concept it's great. In execution, I've heard a mixed bag.

[wufwugy]

I'll add something that we covered a bit in my labor economics class was that we don't even know if education makes people smarter, more skilled, or better off because we don't know if it's just that those who are smarter and more skilled gravitate towards education. Bryan Caplan argues even further, that the data show specifically that education is not improving outcomes.

[Savy]

I like Hannibal Buress. He's a fairly smart guy and is doing pretty well for himself.



This is like a textbook situation on how not to deal with the police.

[spoonitnow]

I like Hannibal Buress. He's a fairly smart guy and is doing pretty well for himself.



This is like a textbook situation on how not to deal with the police.

He does this silly shit a lot.

[Savy]

He does this silly shit a lot.

But it does seem to be I'm a fairly smart guy doing well for myself therefore the only reason you can be arresting me is because I'm black.

Well no people who are successful get in trouble with the police all the time they just deal with it so much fucking better. In fact if the police are racist (and they are) then you make sure you deal with it so much better than others because that type of stuff has a huge negative if you don't.

Now when you're pissed it's different especially if you've had a bad night and are in a mood but come on. Also no one saw that happen and commented that the police dealt with a drunk angry man really well.

[spoonitnow]

if the police are racist (and they are)

That's a bold statement to make about an enormous number of people who come from every background and demographic imaginable.

Blue lives matter. Make America Great Again.

[Savy]

That's a bold statement to make about an enormous number of people who come from every background and demographic imaginable.

Blue lives matter. Make America Great Again.

The police as an institution has quite little to do with the individuals who make up the police force.

[Savy]

Sorry I was talking to spoon and would like his input on a subject he knows something about. You're a retard and I don't care what you have to say about something you know nothing about.

[BananaStand]

Sorry I was talking to spoon and would like his input on a subject he knows something about. You're a retard and I don't care what you have to say about something you know nothing about.

I know the results of two separate studies done 15 years apart directly refute virtually every statement you made.....retard..

[wufwugy]

One thing to clarify. Decentralizing, localizing government does have a positive effect on its ability to progress and benefit it constituents. It could be the case that a sufficiently small government that has a sufficiently small and local constituency with sufficient enough interaction between the government and the community could function as well as the private sector.

We used to have that. Not anymore. Power creep took care of that.

[wufwugy]

[spoonitnow]

[wufwugy]

Bannon goes down!

More to come.

[BananaStand]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ocahontas.html

Are you guys here old enough to remember "Garbage Pail Kids"??

I'm gonna start a fake news rumor right now that says Trump isn't thinking of these names himself. While moving into the white house, he came across a box of Don Jr's old GPK cards.

[BananaStand]

"Sneaky Diane"

Nice

[wufwugy]

Missing his best tho: Dopey Mark Cuban.

[BananaStand]

[spoonitnow]

Bernie's too much of a fucking cuck for that picture to be believable.

[BananaStand]

Bernie's too much of a fucking cuck for that picture to be believable.

Oh yeah, try this....

[spoonitnow]

That's much better.

[oskar]

We started off talking about ethno nationalism or whatever the kids call it these days and you keep dodging the subject and now the subject is so thoroughly dodged that you yourself forgot what we were talking about.

[spoonitnow]

We started off talking about ethno nationalism or whatever the kids call it these days and you keep dodging the subject and now the subject is so thoroughly dodged that you yourself forgot what we were talking about.

You have conversations like old people fuck.

[oskar]

You have the ability to focus on talking points akin to the late great Marty Feldman.

[spoonitnow]

You have the ability to focus on talking points akin to the late great Marty Feldman.

We were talking about education. At no point were we talking about segregation, and you seemed like you wanted me to defend a pro-segregation stance that I've not stated a preference for.

[spoonitnow]

Sessions is going after Obama: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ll-report.html

[oskar]

Sessions is going after Obama: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ll-report.html

Finally some real drama. That's some Clinton level shit if true.
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...aundering.html

[oskar]

Wut? Certainly not me. I thought you had "reasonable arguments" to support the idea that people should have their own private "homeland"

[spoonitnow]

Wut? Certainly not me. I thought you had "reasonable arguments" to support the idea that people should have their own private "homeland"

Israel is a good example.

[oskar]

lol

[wufwugy]

Protip: when Trump tweets something that could be true, it means he already knows it's true. He has done this so many times already.

What's the new one?

"“House votes on controversial FISA ACT today.” This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?"


If Jonathan Langdale was still tweeting, he would be freaking out right about now. He always said that protecting FISA might be the one reason that Trump/Sessions/Mueller wouldn't indict members in the previous administration that could go high enough to include Obama. Well, Trump now has confirmed that he'll cut down even the most beloved of state power to get criminals. Good news.

[spoonitnow]

Protip: when Trump tweets something that could be true, it means he already knows it's true. He has done this so many times already.

What's the new one?

"“House votes on controversial FISA ACT today.” This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?"


If Jonathan Langdale was still tweeting, he would be freaking out right about now. He always said that protecting FISA might be the one reason that Trump/Sessions/Mueller wouldn't indict members in the previous administration that could go high enough to include Obama. Well, Trump now has confirmed that he'll cut down even the most beloved of state power to get criminals. Good news.

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[spoonitnow]

Fact: 100% of illegal immigrants are criminals.

[spoonitnow]

Trump attacks protections for immigrants from ‘shithole’ countries

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.8db9eab87702

rofl

[MadMojoMonkey]

Well, obviously all you need to ask to find out if someone will be a productive member of society is whether or not their neighbors are productive. We should have thought of this sooner. It's not like there are any individuals outside of the good ol' USA.

[wufwugy]

Well, obviously all you need to ask to find out if someone will be a productive member of society is whether or not their neighbors are productive. We should have thought of this sooner. It's not like there are any individuals outside of the good ol' USA.

On that, being somebody who succeeds in a shithole probably signals even greater talent than being somebody who succeeds in a well-off place. Whether or not that is true can depend on lots of different variables, but it gets at the idea that a way to spot the most skilled people is to spot those who have had more to overcome. A blanket rejection from "shithole countries" could be a stupid idea because of this.

[wufwugy]

I'd say with >80% certainty that the quote is fake news.

[wufwugy]

80% is probably quite low too. This isn't the kind of thing somebody like Trump is likely to say or believe, but it IS the kind of fake news that is The Washington Compost's bread and butter.

[oskar]

I got so excited when I read that, because I want to hear how Scott Adams spins this to fit his narrative. If he pulls it off, that will be some cirque du soleil level shit.

[Jack Sawyer]

I got so excited when I read that, because I want to hear how Scott Adams spins this to fit his narrative. If he pulls it off, that will be some cirque du soleil level shit.

Who the fuck is scott adams

[oskar]

Who the fuck is scott adams

He's a breakthrough scientist who has discovered that you don't need any facts or numbers when you have your feelings and your anecdotes. He forms the holy trinity of the enlightened with Stephen Molyneux and Ben Shapiro. Together they lead their disciples on /pol into a brave new era where white people will no longer be genocided, where trans people and minorities will no longer oppress the white race and to a reality where Donald Trump is by no means a babbling retard, but very possibly the smartest man on earth.

[Jack Sawyer]

He's a breakthrough scientist who has discovered that you don't need any facts or numbers when you have your feelings and your anecdotes. He forms the holy trinity of the enlightened with Stephen Molyneux and Ben Shapiro. Together they lead their disciples on /pol into a brave new era where white people will no longer be genocided, where trans people and minorities will no longer oppress the white race and to a reality where Donald Trump is by no means a babbling retard, but very possibly the smartest man on earth.

Ah, I see. One-part of The Right Jesus. Didn't know that

[Poopadoop]

He's a breakthrough scientist who has discovered that you don't need any facts or numbers when you have your feelings and your anecdotes. He forms the holy trinity of the enlightened with Stephen Molyneux and Ben Shapiro. Together they lead their disciples on /pol into a brave new era where white people will no longer be genocided, where trans people and minorities will no longer oppress the white race and to a reality where Donald Trump is by no means a babbling retard, but very possibly the smartest man on earth.

lol

[wufwugy]

He's a breakthrough scientist who has discovered that you don't need any facts or numbers when you have your feelings and your anecdotes. He forms the holy trinity of the enlightened with Stephen Molyneux and Ben Shapiro. Together they lead their disciples on /pol into a brave new era where white people will no longer be genocided, where trans people and minorities will no longer oppress the white race and to a reality where Donald Trump is by no means a babbling retard, but very possibly the smartest man on earth.

Like I always say, you always write great fiction.

[wufwugy]

This is not the type of thing Adams discusses.