Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
First off, it isn't race but nationality.
I already said this is a lame defense. There's no word for nationality-ism, so basically the word racism has been co-opted as being close enough in meaning and sharing the same spirit. IOW, if you're being prejudiced against an ethnic group or a nationality or a group such as the jews, whether or not they constitute a race in the vernacular sense of black, white, red, or yellow is irrelevant. You're still being prejudiced.

If we want to split hairs even further, there's no such thing as different races of humans, we're all homo sapiens. So clearly the word 'racist' is an anomaly of the language.

Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
And what I said, not very well, was an attempt to navigate the very legitimate idea that what people think regarding what is racist can be a sign that they themselves are inadvertently engaging in racism. Here's an example, there was a story of a white guy who brought a watermelon to a company party with a lot of black guys. He then got fired for being racist. Regardless of the details of this actual event, in a hypothetically similar event, if his intent is not known and somebody thinks that what he did is wrong because "these poor black guys must have been offended by the party watermelon," that person begins to enter territory of his own racism.
I take it you made this up, but assume it did happen. The guy wasn't being racist on purpose but he was being insensitive since it ought to have occurred to him how it would look. And no he shouldn't have been fired.


Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
This kind of racism is real yet goes wholly unaddressed by many. It's where we get total nonsense of explicitly racist ideas (like affirmative action) defended as anti-racism. What seems to truly be going on is the "white savior complex" element of racism. "Oh those poor blacks can't achieve success on their own, we wonderful whites need to pass laws that benefit them exclusively....."
I agree affirmative action is simply racism turned backwards. The principle I believe of this kind of action is that it gives a measurable result, whereas just asking people nicely to ignore the applicant's race when hiring presumably doesn't.

But I disagree with your second point that treating the group as needing a leg up implies they're inherently inferior. What it implies is they've been not given the same opportunities as the ruling group.