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[wufwugy]

i dont know that history.

i do know that when does little regarding ISIS and micromanages the military and ISIS grows and the military gets very little done, but then the next president prioritizes defeating ISIS and eliminates all micromanagement and ISIS get annihilated swiftly, we've got some probable causality.

giving trump his due when it is very clear he should get it is a good look for trump haters. because, you know, nobody would take trump haters seriously if they can't even do that.

[BananaStand]

i dont know that history..

You should. Check out the Ken Burns film "The War". Fucking awesome and it will get you all caught up in about 12 hours.

giving trump his due when it is very clear he should get it is a good look for trump haters. because, you know, nobody would take trump haters seriously if they can't even do that.

What is Pocahontas gonna do in 2020 if Trump can actually run on his record? lol

[Poopadoop]

You should. Check out the Ken Burns film "The War". Fucking awesome and it will get you all caught up in about 12 hours.

I thought Burns' "The Civil War" was amazingly well done. I already knew how WWII went so never felt the need to watch that one, but I might check it out some time.

Pocahontas

Calling her that is an insult to Native Americans. ducy?

gonna do in 2020 if Trump can actually run on his record? lol

His prison record? But seriously, if the election were held tomorrow and it was her vs Trump I'm guessing she'd win. Bigly.

[wufwugy]

But seriously, if the election were held tomorrow and it was her vs Trump I'm guessing she'd win. Bigly.

Really? It is almost certain that we can add a few percentage points worth of voters to Trump in all the states that went for him. He's in a significantly better position now than he was the day of the election.

[Poopadoop]

Really? It is almost certain that we can add a few percentage points worth of voters to Trump in all the states that went for him. He's in a significantly better position now than he was the day of the election.

I guess that depends on who you ask. If you ask his core supporters they probably all think he's doing a great job. If you ask the people who never liked him, they probably think he's doing an awful job. So it's the ones in the middle who need to be won over and kept. The last I heard his approval rating was 32%, so that leads me to believe those ones in the middle aren't really with him.

[wufwugy]

I guess that depends on who you ask. If you ask his core supporters they probably all think he's doing a great job. If you ask the people who never liked him, they probably think he's doing an awful job. So it's the ones in the middle who need to be won over and kept. The last I heard his approval rating was 32%, so that leads me to believe those ones in the middle aren't really with him.

My read -- which is a great read -- is that the sizable number of Christian conservatives who didn't vote for him because they did not like him for their Christiany reasons will mostly vote for him in 2020. And some middle-of-the-road or neo-conservative Republicans who couldn't pull the trigger for him will in 2020. Not all of these types will do so though. There is some deeply entrenched hate for Trump among people who call themselves conservative or Republican. I periodically review their main news sources just to see if they have yet come to their senses.

[BananaStand]

I thought Burns' "The Civil War" was amazingly well done. I already knew how WWII went so never felt the need to watch that one, but I might check it out some time.

There's no video of the civil war, and everyone who was involved is long dead. This documentary on WWII is on another level.

Calling her that is an insult to Native Americans. ducy?

No...it isn't. You're dead wrong about this.

His prison record? But seriously, if the election were held tomorrow and it was her vs Trump I'm guessing she'd win. Bigly

How???

She has the same problem all democrats have....no viable policy platform. They can't compete with Republicans on economic growth or national security...you know the stuff that matters.

[Poopadoop]

No...it isn't. You're dead wrong about this.

Trust me, I know. The fact that you don't though doesn't surprise me.

[Poopadoop]

How???

She has the same problem all democrats have....no viable policy platform. They can't compete with Republicans on economic growth or national security...you know the stuff that matters.

Based on the fact that no incumbent with an approval rating < 45% has been re-elected,then Trump at 32 or 35% of whatever it is would be an underdog to a dish towel.

[BananaStand]

Based on the fact that no incumbent with an approval rating < 45% has been re-elected,then Trump at 32 or 35% of whatever it is would be an underdog to a dish towel.

How come basic mathematical logic eludes you so easily??

How is that you can't see that 32% is a hugely bogus number?

He won with 49-ish percent of the vote. How the fuck could he lose 17% in the first year by doing nothing but delivering on promises and successfully disproving all of the scandalous allegations against him. Obviously that approval figure is fucked.

Or the other explanation, is that republicans just have split opinions on Trump. Take me for example....the guy wasn't my first choice. I didn't vote for him in the primary. But I would vote for him in the general election over any democrat you can name. I think there are shit tons of people out there who might "disapprove" of the job Trump is doing, but would still vote for him in 2020.

[Poopadoop]

How come basic mathematical logic eludes you so easily??

I know right? It's amazing I teach stats at a graduate level.

How is that you can't see that 32% is a hugely bogus number?

It's actually closer to 35% i think. But, you know that number comes from Gallup, an independent and unbiased source right? It's not like it's a Breitbart or CNN poll.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/201617/g...-approval.aspx

He won with 49-ish percent of the vote. How the fuck could he lose 17% in the first year by doing nothing but delivering on promises and successfully disproving all of the scandalous allegations against him. Obviously that approval figure is fucked.

On that analysis it sure is. The problem is a large section of the public apparently doesn't see things that way.

Or the other explanation, is that republicans just have split opinions on Trump. Take me for example....the guy wasn't my first choice. I didn't vote for him in the primary. But I would vote for him in the general election over any democrat you can name. I think there are shit tons of people out there who might "disapprove" of the job Trump is doing, but would still vote for him in 2020.

So they can hate him but still prefer him to any democrat? Well, that's possible and I wouldn't be shocked if it came true.

Edit: Any maybe that explains the discrepancy between his approval rating and the number of people who voted for him. Though the former has been trending downwards fairly steadily since he took office.

[BananaStand]

Based on the fact that no incumbent with an approval rating < 45% has been re-elected,then Trump at 32 or 35% of whatever it is would be an underdog to a dish towel.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...ms-fester.html

^Proof that approval ratings mean dog shit.

You have to understand that the people who take these polls don't follow the news. They know more about which Jenner brat is dating which basketball player than they do about the taxes, education, or healthcare. These approval polls, as proven by Chicago, are really just a measure of how "cool" you are, and have nothing to do with quality of work.

At crunch time though...Trump will have a record to run on. Democrats will need a message. So far all they've got is "orange face....sexist.....twitter"

[Poopadoop]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...ms-fester.html

^Proof that approval ratings mean dog shit.

Really having problems with definitions lately aren't you?

If this is proof of anything it's that being opposed to someone who's wildly unpopular is a popular thing to do.

At crunch time though...

Crunch time may come before 2020 if Mueller gets his job done in time.

Trump will have a record to run on.

Right. Suddenly people who are embarrassed every time he opens his mouth and all his bullshit and all the accusations against him will wake up and realize none of that matters because the stock market they have no investments in is high.

Or are you referring to something else by "his record?" I'm still waiting for someone to explain all the amazing things he's accomplished in the last year. I mean I know he says that he has but that's not really evidence.

Democrats will need a message. So far all they've got is "orange face....sexist.....twitter"

Assuming Trump is allowed to run in 2020, if the democrats can find anyone halfway respectable, they'll win unless things change a lot between now and then.

[Poopadoop]

i dont know that history.

FDR was president until early '45 when he died. Then Truman took over and a few months later won the war which FDR couldn't because he was a shit president when it came to defeating Nazis. I'm gonna assume you don't need the sarcasm explained to you.