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[wufwugy]

That explanation's prediction is that nothing will come of the whole Mueller going after Trump thing.


My read on this from the beginning was that it will be best for Trump to let it play out. This included predictions that Mueller would uncover stuff that Democrats want hidden and then Democrats would call for his resignation, which has been happening. So far, Trump is as clean as a whistle, which makes sense since he was always in control of Mueller's job.

My hopeful read, though I'm not sure to what degree I believe it, is that this was a ruse from the beginning to get everybody to focus on Trump while Mueller uncovers crimes of the previous administration. There are some facts that support that idea. Nothing conclusive though.

[Poopadoop]

That explanation's prediction is that nothing will come of the whole Mueller going after Trump thing.

Well ok, but it only predicts that because it assumes he's innocent and if he were guilty he'd fire Mueller. Neither of those is a given.

My read on this from the beginning was that it will be best for Trump to let it play out. This included predictions that Mueller would uncover stuff that Democrats want hidden and then Democrats would call for his resignation, which has been happening.

Which democrats? Name them please.

So far, Trump is as clean as a whistle, which makes sense since he was always in control of Mueller's job.

Again, relies on your assumptions above.

[wufwugy]

Which democrats? Name them please.

Obama. Lynch. Comey. Clinton. McCabe.

[Poopadoop]

Obama. Lynch. Comey. Clinton. McCabe.

And when have they called for his resignation?

[wufwugy]

And when have they called for his resignation?

Oh I thought you were asking for something else.

The calls for his resignation came from the media wing of the party. The first bits were a few months ago.

[wufwugy]

Well ok, but it only predicts that because it assumes he's innocent and if he were guilty he'd fire Mueller. Neither of those is a given.

I'm not sure what assumption there is in there.

I mean, I guess I'm assuming Trump doesn't have an IQ of 12. Because that's how low it would have to be to have full control over somebody's job and to allow that person to very openly and for a very long time try to put you in prison.

IIRC Trump interviewed Mueller for a different position the day before he was hired by Rosenstein. But don't quote me on that.

[Poopadoop]

I'm not sure what assumption there is in there.

I mean, I guess I'm assuming Trump doesn't have an IQ of 12. Because that's how low it would have to be to have full control over somebody's job and to allow that person to very openly and for a very long time try to put you in prison.

You seem to think his best option if he's guilty is to essentially admit his guilt by stopping the investigation or firing the guy in charge.

[wufwugy]

You seem to think his best option if he's guilty is to essentially admit his guilt by stopping the investigation or firing the guy in charge.

Firing Mueller would indeed be the best bet if Trump had something to hide. Even though it would make many people pull their hair out, it would vastly decrease Trump's real exposure.

However, what I am suggesting is a little different. I'm suggesting if Trump had something to hide he wouldn't have let his AG appoint a special counsel to "investigate him" in the first place.

[Poopadoop]

Firing Mueller would indeed be the best bet if Trump had something to hide. Even though it would make many people pull their hair out, it would vastly decrease Trump's real exposure.

However, what I am suggesting is a little different. I'm suggesting if Trump had something to hide he wouldn't have let his AG appoint a special counsel to "investigate him" in the first place.

So you think Trump 'let' his AG appoint a special counsel? You think Rosenstein called him up one day and say 'Hey boss, ok if I investigate this Russia thing that implicates a bunch of your crew?', and Trump said 'Sure, whatever dude. My hands are clean.'

That doesn't happen in an independent investigation, any more than a judge calls Trump up and asks him if it's ok to overturn his Muslim Ban thingy.

Your problem i think is that you equate the presidency of the US with a dictatorship where nothing happens without the head of state's approval. That's not my understanding of how it works. The DAG works for the people, not at the pleasure of the president.

[wufwugy]

So you think Trump 'let' his AG appoint a special counsel? You think Rosenstein called him up one day and say 'Hey boss, ok if I investigate this Russia thing that implicates a bunch of your crew?', and Trump said 'Sure, whatever dude. My hands are clean.'

That doesn't happen in an independent investigation, any more than a judge calls Trump up and asks him if it's ok to overturn his Muslim Ban thingy.

Your problem i think is that you equate the presidency of the US with a dictatorship where nothing happens without the head of state's approval. That's not my understanding of how it works. The DAG works for the people, not at the pleasure of the president.

Trump interviewed Mueller the day before Rosenstein hired him. There are not that many reasonable ways to take this.