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    Wuf, your reasoning that Trump is innocent because he is allowing Mueller to continue doing his job is erroneous and does not encapsulate the interests and incentives for all the pieces on the board.

    If Trump fires Mueller now, there is no way it can look good. A significant portion of the electorate will see it as obstruction. This is bad for everyone. It puts the republican congress in a tough spot, etc.

    Sessions moves all point towards him thinking impeachment or a failed bid at a second term are likely. He's doing just enough to appease Trump and the base and otherwise staying out of it.

    Mueller has all the incentive to take down a president. That is how he makes it into the history books. Nothing about him says he's interested in anything Trump, or pretty much anyone else has to offer. He is not climbing the ladder, this is the top. This is his moment.

    The truth is, Trump is playing 3D chess, as is everyone else involved. The question though is who is a fish? Who understands basic strategy and who is a grandmaster? The fun thing with this view is that it doesn't put all its weight on an assumption of anyone's ability except that the Russians probably have to be Grandmasters and I've got no qualms about this being where my money lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Wuf, your reasoning that Trump is innocent because he is allowing Mueller to continue doing his job is erroneous and does not encapsulate the interests and incentives for all the pieces on the board.
    The dynamic between Trump and Mueller is a useful tool to evaluate how intelligent it is to believe Mueller is going after Trump in the landscape of scant evidence. It isn't itself evidence.

    If Trump fires Mueller now, there is no way it can look good. A significant portion of the electorate will see it as obstruction. This is bad for everyone. It puts the republican congress in a tough spot, etc.
    Sure, and it would be significantly better for Trump than not firing Mueller if Trump's hands are dirty. Also, the current status is already well beyond where these rationale became important. If Trump is dirty, it is very unlikely he lets it get this far in the first place. Still, that isn't evidence. It's one of those "if it doesn't look like a duck or walk like a duck, it probably ain't a duck" things.

    Sessions moves all point towards him thinking impeachment or a failed bid at a second term are likely. He's doing just enough to appease Trump and the base and otherwise staying out of it.
    Larry Schweikart has inside sources in the Trump administration, one of which included Bannon. Schweikart claims that Bannon told him that the Sessions recusal was planned by the Trump administration. Additionally, the back and forth heat between Trump and Sessions is one of the most likely scenarios of intended fake news on the part of the Trump administration.

    Is Schweikart right? Who knows. But his claim is the most credible of anything public I've seen on this issue. Everything else is some "sources familiar with their thinking" nonsense.

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