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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Why do you think black people are more likely to grow up without a father?
    I don't presume to know the root cause. However, a few relevant points:

    1. Black people are more likely to grow up without a father than people of any other race in the United States, even when compared across poverty demographics. This is important to show that it's not caused specifically by poverty.
    2. Black culture celebrates the nuclear family less than any other culture in the United States.
    3. Any black figure who tries to promote nuclear family values is openly made fun of by the majority of black people.
    4. Abortion kills more black people than any other cause and at a higher rate per capita than any other race in the United States. This illustrates an overwhelming lack of responsible birth control use, which could obviously be a factor. The root cause of #4 here is likely some combination of education and culture.

    This topic is actually related to why I support the voucher system for public schools. I think it's much better than just tying school funding to local property values and gives black communities a much better chance at increasing the quality of their K-12 education.

    Edit: Obligatory that's raaaacist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I don't presume to know the root cause. However, a few relevant points:

    1. Black people are more likely to grow up without a father than people of any other race in the United States, even when compared across poverty demographics. This is important to show that it's not caused specifically by poverty.
    2. Black culture celebrates the nuclear family less than any other culture in the United States.
    3. Any black figure who tries to promote nuclear family values is openly made fun of by the majority of black people.
    4. Abortion kills more black people than any other cause and at a higher rate per capita than any other race in the United States. This illustrates an overwhelming lack of responsible birth control use, which could obviously be a factor. The root cause of #4 here is likely some combination of education and culture.

    This topic is actually related to why I support the voucher system for public schools. I think it's much better than just tying school funding to local property values and gives black communities a much better chance at increasing the quality of their K-12 education.

    Edit: Obligatory that's raaaacist.
    I still don't see how that's a compelling reason for segregation. You said yourself that an absentee father is a greater indicator on a persons outlook in life than any other factors. If that's true, why would you advocate segregation based on another trait that loosely correlates with that trait? Wouldn't it be more effective to segregate based on family composition? Or let's say you want to reduce violence in a certain area. The vast majority of crimes are committed by people carrying a Y chromosome, so why not deport those people? I can see there could be some legitimate objections to gender or mutation based segregation, but there are also a number of behavioral phenotypes that are more indicative of a persons outlook in life than the phenotype related to melanin. Segregating based on those would be much more effective than segregation based on ethnicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I still don't see how that's a compelling reason for segregation. You said yourself that an absentee father is a greater indicator on a persons outlook in life than any other factors. If that's true, why would you advocate segregation based on another trait that loosely correlates with that trait? Wouldn't it be more effective to segregate based on family composition? Or let's say you want to reduce violence in a certain area. The vast majority of crimes are committed by people carrying a Y chromosome, so why not deport those people? I can see there could be some legitimate objections to gender or mutation based segregation, but there are also a number of behavioral phenotypes that are more indicative of a persons outlook in life than the phenotype related to melanin. Segregating based on those would be much more effective than segregation based on ethnicity.
    None of what you wrote has anything to do with why black people are less likely to grow up with a father (the question I was answering), and none of what I wrote has anything to do with segregation (the topic of your latest incoherent rant). I have no idea why you do this.
    Last edited by spoonitnow; 01-11-2018 at 12:22 AM.

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