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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    While I do agree that the base ideology of using government coercion to organize society is the root from which both of the western left/progressivism and communism/fascism emerge, proponents don't see it that way.
    The proponents only see it one of two ways.....either they are the puppet masters, and see that as a means to control a population, secure a voting base, and leverage it to maintain power.

    or...

    they are the puppets...duped into a sense of entitlement and perception of injustice/unfairness that can only be rectified by government.

    No one has ever been un-brainwashed through an "adult exchange of ideas in honest appreciation of each other". The only way to change hearts and minds is for the hypocrisy to be laid bare, in plain, but sometimes crass, terms. The failings of intelligence must be highlighted in ways that sometimes shame the stupid. Human instincts of self-preservation will kick in and reason will override the brainwash-induced ideology.

    Dems ended the government shutdown today out of embarrassment....not as a result of a healthy, productive, respectful debate. Their position was laid out, in plain english, for the American people to interpret.

    Dems are not paying soldiers because they want free shit for illegals.

    Explaining it like that makes their position indefensible. And they were caught defending the indefensible.
    Last edited by BananaStand; 01-22-2018 at 03:29 PM.

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