*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[CoccoBill]

It seems USA goes one way or the other...

1. less guns,
2. more guns, but give them to the right people.

I don't think option 1 is all that logical. Who gives up their guns? Not the people likely to use them for shooting kids. Less guns means less for law abiding citizens. You're disarming the wrong people.

1. is pretty much undoable at this point, even some redneck nightmare mass government confiscations would take years and only scratch the surface. Finland is sort of in the same situation, due to them russians and hunting being a popular activity Finland has one of the highest per capita gun numbers in the EU. And guess what, we're also pretty much at the top for gun related violence.

[OngBonga]

3,695 unintentional gun deaths between 2010-2016 in the US. So roughly 670 per year. Wouldn't say negligible.

Ok, now how many of those people who accidentally discharged their weapon were sufficiently trained in how to handle their weapon? Further, how many of them were responsible people going about their daily routine?

Some redneck shooting his daughter instead of a tornado doesn't compare to a trained teacher taking some kid's head off by accident.

[OngBonga]

It's not a teacher's job to be an armed guard, and nor should it be.

The first part is something that can change, and the second part is a matter of opinion.

If my uni told me we had a problem with mass shootings at unis and so they wanted me to go on a training course and carry a gun to lectures I would tell them to fuck right off.

Fair enough. Would all teachers say "fuck off"? It only needs a handful, I'm not suggesting all teachers should be armed.

It's not difficult to see - number of overall killing sprees doesn't change, number of accidental killings goes up.

Fucking accidental killings, I really can't believe that's part of this dicsussion. 3800? Fuck's sake, that number is obviously including morons.

Ok fine. But don't expect teachers to double as bodyguards.

Why? Some will be happy to. Just because you're uncomfortable with it, doesn't mean I shouldn't expect it. It's gonna happen.

[OngBonga]

1. is pretty much undoable at this point, even some redneck nightmare mass government confiscations would take years and only scratch the surface. Finland is sort of in the same situation, due to them russians and hunting being a popular activity Finland has one of the highest per capita gun numbers in the EU. And guess what, we're also pretty much at the top for gun related violence.

Finally I know where you are! I assumed Europe, but never actually knew. Finland has a gun problem? I thought you guys were all nutjobs driving 4x4s up snowy hills, didn't think you guys had murderous intent in you.

[CoccoBill]

Finally I know where you are! I assumed Europe, but never actually knew. Finland has a gun problem? I thought you guys were all nutjobs driving 4x4s up snowy hills, didn't think you guys had murderous intent in you.

I think I've told that a couple times in the past, at least I'm sure wuf knows. Well it's not in the news and I'm sure many people here don't realize it, but we do top the EU charts for gun violence per capita. I would think the majority of them are suicides and accidents, homicide isn't too common here, just a few cases a year. Out of those, I'm sure most were drunk.

[OngBonga]

Are you guys proud of Nico Rosberg? Or do you hate him because he's a pretend German?

[CoccoBill]

Are you guys proud of Nico Rosberg? Or do you hate him because he's a pretend German?

He's finnish when he wins, german when he loses.

[OngBonga]

He's finnish when he wins, german when he loses.

Kind of like Andy Murray.

He's British when he wins, Scottish when he loses. It's great, I can be happy no matter what. Yay we have a great tennis player, or yay the miserable Scot lost.

[OngBonga]

The ONLY time I can see a serious risk of "accidental shooting" in a school environment is if there is actually an ongoing incident. But surely you take that as collateral? Teacher takes out the killer and a student in the crossfire? Better than 20 kids getting shot.

[OngBonga]

What I can't wrap my head around is the resistance to make it harder for people not fitting that criteria to get guns.

I'm with you here, I find it strange that banana is happy for people who post "ominous shit" to have guns, simply because their right to say "ominous shit" is protected by the 1A. That resistance is baffling.