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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    It was obviously someone stupid enough to think that it's possible to quantify how many lives are saved by teachers having guns.
    I read a paper that estimated the impact of civilian carry on shooting deaths. The number of documented averted potential mass shootings is EXTREMELY high. But of course you never hear about the times when a civilian with a firearm stopped a criminal shooting at other civilians since the dictatorial-propagandist wannabes, the western mainstream media, don't cover facts that better inform decent people.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I read a paper that estimated the impact of civilian carry on shooting deaths. The number of documented averted potential mass shootings is EXTREMELY high. But of course you never hear about the times when a civilian with a firearm stopped a criminal shooting at other civilians since the dictatorial-propagandist wannabes, the western mainstream media, don't cover facts that better inform decent people.
    forget all that. I mean, that's great if it's true because it completely debunks whatever liberal garbage Poopadoop is spewing. And certainly that's enough. But what you've both missing, is the deterrence.

    There is absolutely no way to know how many crimes are simply not committed because the intended target is protected. But the number has to be uncountable.

    An absolute jackpot robbery target would be a police evidence locker. I mean that's just gotta be full of cash, and drugs, and guns and shit that any criminal would love to get their hands on. How many of those get robbed compared to convenience stores or banks?
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    the deterrence.
    That's true. Big time.

    And it's not just the deterrence (incentives-wise), but the filtering (skin in the game -wise). With a system that sufficiently deters criminal shootings, it will be the case that those it does not deter end up weeded out of the gene pool, and what's left is the evolutionary adapted reality, where those that "need to be deterred" simple don't exist anymore.

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