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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Here's what happened:

    I said this:



    It is a key observation that many people have made in the past, yet it is an observation that is rarely accepted among those who do not like Trump. It is something that I have personally been consistent on, so I have at least an n=1 of behaving like his core beliefs and move telegraphs are distinct and understood by me.

    Then I was told I was handwaving

    Then I responded by pointing out that tons of people see it the way I do.

    Then I was told I was saying something meaningless and being theological.

    Then I was told that I don't even know what I meant (I do).

    And then more of the above, but I'll stop here


    The gap in this conversation is that it's not even a conversation. I'm being told what I think, that I don't know what I think, that my points are not points, etc..
    Quite the victim you are.

    If you can't see how closely your argument regarding Trumps "core beliefs" mirrors a defensive Christians arguments regarding why god does/doesn't do this or that, then I'm not sure what to say. I'm open to the idea that my "trump-hate" is biasing me away from being able to discern his true message, but if this is the case, you're doing an awful job of making the case-- to make the case convincingly you need to clearly distinguish it from the "well it's because you don't have faith" argument the religious will throw at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I see you enjoy horoscopes.
    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Quite the victim you are.

    If you can't see how closely your argument regarding Trumps "core beliefs" mirrors a defensive Christians arguments regarding why god does/doesn't do this or that, then I'm not sure what to say. I'm open to the idea that my "trump-hate" is biasing me away from being able to discern his true message, but if this is the case, you're doing an awful job of making the case-- to make the case convincingly you need to clearly distinguish it from the "well it's because you don't have faith" argument the religious will throw at you.
    In literary analysis, it's really easy to miss the forest for the trees. My views looking theological is the trees.

    In your defense, my articulation is probably misleading.

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