Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
He likes to redefine words like truth or reality to mean something entirely different than the dictionary definition. That's what I was getting at.
The dictionary defines the meaning of words. What book exists that definitively explains concepts? If you want to insist that "truth" is a word and that's it, then you're a dick. Truth can be discussed as a concept.

For example. You can ask, "is it true that everyone matters?". And then you can look at differences between societies that are oppressive and unfair, and societies that treat everyone like they matter. And if we see that throughout time, the societies who treat people like they matter do better...then perhaps we can assume that the concept of "everyone matters" is TRUE

You might think you're telling the truth when you say you love your wife. Then the next day you find out she is plowing the mailman. Well, you didn't really love your wife. That was un-true. You were in love with a person that you imagined. The real person is a bitch.

I'm pretty sure everyone still active on here is an atheist. Except maybe wuf if you count Trump as a deity. So if you want to make a case for why it makes sense to believe in a god, I'd love to ridicule it. HEAR IT
I'd love to hear it
JP's got hundreds of hours on the psychological significance of the bible. I've only sampled a tiny fraction, but it seems that the point is that it's fine to recognize the "truth" (lol) that there was never a flood so bad that all life on earth had to be saved by riding out the storm in a 1000 foot wooden boat built by a 500 year old man. Like, a snake never fed a dumb bitch an apple, but that's not the point.

The snake represents something. The flood represents something. Cain and Able represent something. They represent the acting out of "truths". In the new testament, the representations of truth are made through an axiomatic individual.

You can have "faith" in those truths. You can "believe" in the moral value of biblical stories. You don't have to accept that water can actually be turned into wine, or that a dead man can be resurrected from the grave. But you can celebrate, practice, worship those traditions as the almighty end all guide for existence.

If you're gonna rant about "transubstantiation" and people who take shit literally, fine. go ahead. I really believe that those people make up 20% at most of Christianity. Can't say for other religions, but those are fucked up bullshit. So I'm with you when it comes to mocking the "literalists". But there is definitely value in acting out the proposition that it's all real. And people gathering around the source of their morality, and making up a community around "acting out" the proposition of religion is something that I think is immensely valuable.