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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Looks like they had armed guards in Santa Fe as well. So two consecutive shootings in what weren't gun-free zones. What's the solution now? More guns or more prayers?
    I'm not exactly a big gun fanatic and yet surely I think the solution is looking at why people are feeling like they need to go into school and shoot people. Getting rid of guns will obviously reduce this problem and anyone who claims otherwise is clearly lying but it isn't dealing with the problem of why do these people want to go and shoot their peers.

    Tbh I always feel some slight pity because the people who do this are either off their rocker or have been driven to do it by the horrible cunts they are surrounded by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    I'm not exactly a big gun fanatic and yet surely I think the solution is looking at why people are feeling like they need to go into school and shoot people. Getting rid of guns will obviously reduce this problem and anyone who claims otherwise is clearly lying but it isn't dealing with the problem of why do these people want to go and shoot their peers.

    Tbh I always feel some slight pity because the people who do this are either off their rocker or have been driven to do it by the horrible cunts they are surrounded by.
    School shootings are a uniquely american phenomenon.

    They’re not unique to America but the USA is definitely far and away the world leader.

    Here’s Wikipedia’s list of School shootings from around the world. Canada has 18 school shootings in its entire history. The entire of Europe (including Russia) has 24. Mexico has three. Australia has five with a combined fatality total of 3.

    Wikipedia has decided the USA needs its own page List of school shootings in the United States. You can see the 36 school shootings that occurred in the US in 2014 alone. In one year the USA had more school shootings that Mexico, the entire of Europe and Australia's entire history combined. There have been more deaths in school shootings so far in 2016 in the USA than in the entire of Australia’s history.

    School shootings do occur in other nations but they’re incredibly rare events and decades go past without them occuring. They happen on a monthly basis in the US.

    Can we blame normalization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    School shootings are a uniquely american phenomenon.
    So America is the problem.

    But what about America because most things in that video weren't American phenomenon. They are what sells and what sells sells across every country. Is that stating that given enough time all media will become Americanised enough in which case this issue of school shootings shoudl become more wide spread?

    So still, what is the issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    So America is the problem.

    But what about America because most things in that video weren't American phenomenon. They are what sells and what sells sells across every country. Is that stating that given enough time all media will become Americanised enough in which case this issue of school shootings shoudl become more wide spread?
    This dude is going out of his way to find a different culprit rather than the "total amount of guns (also per capita)" or "ease of arming oneself" arguments.

    He, however, concentrates on the seed. Right now, as I pointed out before it's a rather uniquely American phenomenon. Even so, most of the shootings that do happen do not even leave the local news. It's that normalized. Just another Tuesday.

    So, the argument in that video is that

    it's happening > it's covered more in the 24h news cycle because sensationalism, ads > becomes more glamorous somehow, attracting the "right" candidates > it happens more.


    There are leaps in logic in that reasoning (such as where the fuck do they get the weapons in the first place) which is why I posted it here to initiate some kind of a discussion on the topic for the nth time, but we are already at the point that the mass shooting cat is long out of the proverbial bag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    So still, what is the issue?
    That would be mass shootings, kind sir.
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