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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    You're ignoring known patterns of human behavior. People don't take care of themselves. You have to force them. People aren't skipping checkups because they can't afford it. They're skipping checkups because they don't think they need one. Even people with insurance, whose physical exams are 100% free, don't get physical exams.
    What you're describing is in addition to my point, not in exception to my point.

    Yes, some people whom have insurance don't go schedule or attend regular check-ups. That is a cost that will not change.
    Yes, some people whom are sick choose not to go see a doctor out of their own hubris that they know what's better for their own and public health than the trained professionals they've established relationships with. That cost will also not change.

    There are people whom want to seek treatment at early stages of an illness, but whom can't afford to do so. When those people become grievously ill, the cost of treatment is much more expensive than if they'd received treatment earlier. The fact that you're asking me for a source on this is absurd. You wouldn't trust any source I posted, and it's simply common sense that if I wait until after I've infected other people to seek treatment, then those people now also need treatment. What's to even disagree with there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    What's to even disagree with there?
    the implied premise of your post was that these costs were significant drivers of the rising cost of healthcare in America.

    But really what you're describing is a financial nuisance, at best.

    So I'm wondering what your point actually is
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    There are people whom want to seek treatment at early stages of an illness, but whom can't afford to do so.
    You're describing the insured working class here.

    You're describing people with insurance, but who can't afford the exorbitant deductibles brought about by socializing healthcare during the Obama administration.

    Poor people don't have this problem. Their shit is subsidized.

    This wasn't a problem for insured people before the government started fucking around with healthcare and trying to give it away to poor people who don't pay for it.

    So at the very most, MMM, you're just observing that the cost of missing preemptive treatments has been transferred from one class of people, to another.

    I'm not seeing how that's a net gain to healthcare costs though.

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