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[MadMojoMonkey]

The "widespread influence of the Russians on the Trump election" is a stupidly glorified way of saying "some Russians made fake Facebook accounts and posted some BS."
The more I dig into this, the more stupid it is. There is no even remote hint of an accusation of any vote tampering at all. The extent of the Russian influence is no more than creating false Facebook identities and posting election-relevant stuff that was not true. Note, the latter part of that is not a crime. People post all kinds of inane stuff when it comes to politics.

Anyone got any credible link to actual accusations which are deeper than this? Not by media prognosticators, but by someone whom is actually doing investigating.
What I've read indicates that no investigators are looking at vote-fraud, and at least one has openly said there is no indication that any vote tampering happened.


Furthermore... It was pointed out to me that there is at least one major political lobbying (funding, campaign advertising) agency (AIPAC) which is perfectly legal and whose purpose is the promotion of everything Israel. So the notion that it's illegal or unprecedented for foreign interests have direct influence on American campaigns is also stupid.



Every time I try to understand all the hubbub, it always turns out to be 95% pure, steaming crap.

[BananaStand]

Anyone got any credible link to actual accusations which are deeper than this? Not by media prognosticators, but by someone whom is actually doing investigating.

Google "steele dossier"

Christopher Steele is an ex british intelligence agent with extensive russian contacts. Through his contacts he amassed a compilation of reports on Trump/Russia relations. This compilation was dubbed "The Dossier" and it contained, I think, about two dozen reports of Trump/Russia stuff. For example, one of his russian contacts alleged that the russian government has pee-porn starring Trump that it could use as blackmail material.

One of the accusations in the dossier is that Paul Manafort and Carter Page were in a room with Putin's proxy and made the deal asking the Russians to hack John Podesta's and the DNC's email in exchange for favorable treatment by the Trump Administration.

It's conceivable they also discussed making fake facebook ads.

None of this has been explicitly disproven, which is some fucked up new standard of proof we now demand. However, the FBI used this information to put surveillance on Carter Page for a full year. He's still a free man. He's not charged with anything. And he's not the target of any publicly known investigation. He's categorically denied this story in its entirety publicly many times. He's also pointed out that Steele's accusation also claims that Page would be given stock in a Russian energy company that would make his net worth more than double Trump's.

also if this accusation were true, it would mean that Paul Manafort has a get out of jail free card. Instead of playing that card, he's chosen to plead "not guilty" and gamble with 305 years in a federal prison. Does that make a bit of sense?