*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[BananaStand]

Dude. You jump at ridiculous shadows......I don't see why you can knowlingly read a fluff piece based on sensationalism and take it as any indication of reality.

You really should try getting in touch with reality.

This isn't a mere case of media bias. This is bigger.

Think about what kind of emotion and opinions are required to disseminate a piece like this.

First, you'd have to believe that Mueller's goal is to remove Trump from the presidency. That's not stated in the scope of his investigation. And it's been widely reported that Trump is officially not a target of the investigation. When Trump impugns Mueller's impartiality....CNN is the very first to shit all over him for being paranoid. When Trump suggests firing Mueller, they liken Trump to a tyrannical dictator who can't stand critical inquiry. Yet now we have a CNN contributor, and it's editorial board, suggesting that it's absolutely fine to pervert our justice system to generate preferable political outcomes.

How does that not make your head explode?

Think about what they're actually suggesting here. If Don Jr committed a crime, then shouldn't he simply be charged accordingly? Wouldn't that be how justice is served? Identify the criminal, present evidence, convict, and sentence. That's what I learned in school. But CNN apparently doesn't think perjury under congressional subpoena is all that big of a deal. They're ready to forget about it and give Don Jr a pass if daddy is willing to fall on the sword.

And why would CNN want that? Trump's not guilty of anything here. In fact, if the sum total of the Mueller investigation is a perjury charge against Don Jr.....then doesn't that kinda vindicate Trump? He's not charged with anything. He's not the target of any investigation. There's no evidence of him doing anything wrong. And yet, CNN would still like to see him brought down by this any way they can imagine.

Prosecutors give immunity to witnesses when they testify against people guilty of worse crimes. It's a tool used in the furtherance of justice. in this scenario, Trump is guilty of no crime. Taking Trump down doesn't serve any interest of justice AT ALL. Using prosecutorial powers for political purposes is exactly the kind of tyranny and fascism that CNN regularly accuses Trump of perpetrating.

In fact, it's a complete perversion of justice. That would be a WILD misuse of power. Imagine if we lived in a world where any minor crime, by any family member of a politician, can be leveraged by any politically motivated prosecutor to force that politician to resign his/her office. Do you REALLY wanna live in that kind of America? Why would you get your news from someone who does.

The office of POTUS is not a bargaining chip. Anyone who thinks that is dangerous. Anyone who gives a platform to someone like that is the enemy of the people.

[MadMojoMonkey]

How does that not make your head explode?

It's a fluff piece based on sensationalism and exactly nothing will come of it.

You're right that if anything comes of this it will be a complete perversion of justice.
It could well be different if we weren't talking about POTUS, but we are.
Which is why nothing will ever come of this.

[BananaStand]

It's a fluff piece based on sensationalism and exactly nothing will come of it.

You're right that if anything comes of this it will be a complete perversion of justice.
It could well be different if we weren't talking about POTUS, but we are.
Which is why nothing will ever come of this.

Aren't you at least a little curious how a supposedly credible and independent media giant can become so corrupt?

I mean, they didn't used to be so overtly biased and manipulative. There was a time when ethics mattered.

We're not in that time anymore. Doesn't that trigger your scientific mind to ask "why"?

Maybe something happened. And maybe when it did someone asked what the fuck happened. And then that someone was told "don't be sensational, nothing will come of this"

And now here we are.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Aren't you at least a little curious how a supposedly credible and independent media giant can become so corrupt?

They've always had their own agenda. Every mind has bias. If they duped anyone into believing otherwise, that's on the duped to figure out, not me.
It's not news that power corrupts. If the people watching the news aren't doing any of their own research to corroborate the news, and they believe the news like it's facts disseminated from an unbiased source, then lol obv. the news agencies have been given immense power by that.

I mean, they didn't used to be so overtly biased and manipulative. There was a time when ethics mattered.

When was that, again?
the 90's? No.
80's? No.
70's? No.
60's? No.
etc.

We're not in that time anymore. Doesn't that trigger your scientific mind to ask "why"?

No. Accepting that power corrupts and noting that ignorance and laziness has ceded disproportionate power to certain agencies is enough explanation to me.
I don't see any point in presuming that the most likely answer is not the actual answer in this case.

Maybe something happened. And maybe when it did someone asked what the fuck happened. And then that someone was told "don't be sensational, nothing will come of this"

And now here we are.

Maybe when there are consequences which are unjust we can continue this topic. Until then, there are myriad dipshit voices in the media proclaiming all sorts of nonsense, and I'm happy to ignore all of them as inconsequential noise until proven otherwise.

[BananaStand]

They've always had their own agenda.

You really have to be smarter than this. When the media consisted of just basically 3 TV networks and local newspapers, the agenda was to get people watching and sell ads. They did that by giving people what they wanted. Back then, people wanted the news. So the agenda was to given them the news. Now, people want to be stroked inside of an echo chamber. So, the agenda is bring them inside an echo chamber and stroke them.

Equating the two by saying "they've always had their own agenda" is ostrich-ism at it's worst. The methodology matters.

Every mind has bias, If they duped anyone into believing otherwise, that's on the duped to figure out, not me.

So? Feeding that bias, and manipulating it for your own profit-motivated purposes, and disguising it as journalism is completely unethical. You seem to be saying that there should be no consequence for that because the victims aren't smart enough to figure it out. By your logic Bernie Madoff is totally fine, right? People who invested money with him should have been smarter right?

It's not news that power corrupts. If the people watching the news aren't doing any of their own research to corroborate the news, and they believe the news like it's facts disseminated from an unbiased source, then lol obv. the news agencies have been given immense power by that.

Was that power given willingly? Why do you seem to believe that it's ok to abuse that power?

Do the students you teach independently corroborate everything in your curriculum before accepting your lessons as being accurate? Or do they extend a certain degree of trust because of your position and your credentials? What should happen if you violate that trust.

When was that, again?

Before we invaded Iraq. That seems to be the moment when the liberal media snapped.

No. Accepting that power corrupts and noting that ignorance and laziness has ceded disproportionate power to certain agencies is enough explanation to me.

Ok. That's enough explanation for me too. But now what? Does the ignorance and laziness bother you? Can anything be done about it? Does corruption bother you? Can anything be done about it?

It's like you recognize the problem, but your solution is "fuck it, just let it get worse until it's bad enough for me to care, and I'll deal with it then". LOL That's like saying "I'm not gonna brush my teeth, because they don't hurt". How do you feel about people who say "Just forget climate change for now, keep polluting as much as you want until the problem gets bad enough to affect me personally"

Maybe when there are consequences which are unjust we can continue this topic. Until then, there are myriad dipshit voices in the media proclaiming all sorts of nonsense, and I'm happy to ignore all of them as inconsequential noise until proven otherwise.

What kind of unjust consequences might those be? Like ...oh...maybe....the opening of a special prosecutor investigation into a President elect?