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[OngBonga]

Can I ask you a serious question?

Do you think Islam is an oppressive religion? I'm genuinely curious why you don't have a problem with the Islamic population increasing at a higher rate than non-Islamic.

[Poopadoop]

Can I ask you a serious question?

Do you think Islam is an oppressive religion? I'm genuinely curious why you don't have a problem with the Islamic population increasing at a higher rate than non-Islamic.

Hard-core islam is a problem, sure. But, I don't believe that freaking out over a current 5% Muslim population, only about 40% of which support 'aspects' of Sharia Law, is warranted.

https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2...-of-sharia-law

You can't just add up the number of people who identify as muslim, see that it's growing over time, then project a Malthusian takeover of the population in 30 years and start panicking about Sharia Law as in the moment we become > 50% Muslim they'll enact it. I mean, you can, but it's not rational.

First, you don't know that population trends will continue, or that as you seem to suggest, reflect proportion of Muslims changing at an exponential rate (and if so, that they will continue to do so). Second, even if the population eventually became 100% Muslim (which might take 250 years, but w/e), they'd still only have ~40% support for Sharia Law (assuming things stay the same).

So the Sharia Law freakout argument is obviously bogus. You clearly have some other reason for not wanting them here. Maybe because you're not comfortable around them for whatever reason. But don't try to argue stuff is going to happen that isn't.

[Poopadoop]

... a current 5% Muslim population, only about 40% of which support 'aspects' of Sharia Law...

To elaborate on this, Sharia Law comes in various forms with various interpretations, and is only meant to apply to Muslims. It's not about forcing people to join the religion, or live under it's laws. Rather, it requires its followers to obey the laws of the land.

Sharia addresses both personal and communal aspects of life. For the most part, Sharia is concerned with personal religious observances such as prayer and fasting.

Sharia can be divided into two broad areas:

Guidance in religious worship (ibadat), which is the central focus of Islam.
Guidance in worldly matters (mu’amalat) such as visiting the sick, taking care of our parents, marriage, inheritance, investments and business affairs, etc.

It can be further divided into three more specific areas, some of which apply to American Muslims and some of which do not:

Religious worship and ritual: American Muslims practice their acts of worship (prayer, fasting, pilgrimage, etc.) or rituals in the same manner as people of other faiths.
Private social interactions (marriage, business, etc.): All religions have rules for marriage and ethical economics. These are private and voluntary, so American Muslims follow Islamic standards for these within the limits of American secular law. For example, civil law prohibits having more than one wife, so American Muslims must abide by this law (since Sharia recommends monogamy, this isn’t a problem). There are other aspects of marriage laws such as the mahr (gift from the husband to the wife) or the religious marriage contract which Muslims do observe. Since the Constitution allows such practices for all religions, it is also acceptable to practice this aspect of Sharia in America.
Public law issues (criminal law, war and peace, etc.): These have no application in the U.S. Islamic scholars formulated rules in this area for Muslim-majority societies in other historical situations. But Sharia requires Muslims to obey “the law of the land” of the country they live in. The “law of the land” in the U.S. is the Constitution. Sharia requires American Muslims to support and follow the Constitution in all matters related to public law. Most aspects of Sharia are not meant to be government-enforced, because Sharia is largely a matter of conscience.