Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post

If you didn't care what people think, you wouldn't be trying to change their minds.


It's not that. It's that you're pretending they're dumb over 1 issue you already know you disagree on. The reality is that you know they're not dumb, because of their positions on many other issues, and that's not a factor in their position. The reality is that they're answering all your concerns with clearly intelligent positions, yet those positions don't mean as much to you as your own. It's a cop-out for you to pretend that people you know are intelligent are dumb just because you disagree on this.

Besides if we talk about anything else, we're more friendly toward each other. Why are we harping one of the few subjects that increases tension?


Let's just accept that there's disagreement on this. You believe what you believe and other people don't all agree with you. So what?
That doesn't mean anyone is stupid. We just disagree.
I like this post a lot. In these times we all do tend to have this sick attraction to that which divides us.

That being said, and while I don't think you guys are dumb, I disagree with the bold. "They're all the same, just with different window dressings." is not an intelligent take on religions. It's a cop out that avoids further inquiry. I think the root of it tends to be good intentions-- a desire to not be intolerant, but that doesn't make it intelligent.